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Date:      Wed, 12 May 2010 12:08:20 +0200
From:      Jon Theil Nielsen <jontheil@gmail.com>
To:        Christopher Key <cjk32@cam.ac.uk>
Cc:        User Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: More than 8 partitions
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2010/5/2 Christopher Key <cjk32@cam.ac.uk>

> Jon Theil Nielsen wrote:
> > 2010/5/1 Christopher Key <cjk32@cam.ac.uk>
> >
> >
> >> Jon Theil Nielsen wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> I'm running 8.0-Release on an external usb hard drive. and have
> dual-boot
> >>> with FreeBSD on da0s2 and Windows XP on da0s1. I made a setup via
> >>>
> >> Sysinstall
> >>
> >>> with 7 partitions:
> >>>
> >>> /dev/da0s2a on / (ufs, local)
> >>> /dev/da0s2b (swap)
> >>> /dev/da0s2d on /var (ufs, local, soft-updates)
> >>> /dev/da0s2e on /tmp (ufs, local, soft-updates)
> >>> /dev/da0s2f on /usr (ufs, local, soft-updates)
> >>> /dev/da0s2h on /var/log (ufs, local, soft-updates)
> >>> /dev/da0s2g on /home (ufs, local, soft-updates)
> >>>
> >>> I have about 660 GB left unused on da0s2 that I would like to use for
> >>> backups. But I can't figure out how to create one more partition.
> >>> If i create a file for bsdlabel like
> >>>
> >>> #       size    offset  fstype
> >>> i:      *       0       4.2BSD
> >>>
> >>> I get the following error message: "line 2: partition name out of range
> >>>
> >> a-h:
> >>
> >>> i"
> >>> I have also tried with gpart:
> >>>
> >>> gpart add -s 500G -t freebsd -f x da0s2
> >>>
> >>> I get something like "gpart: index '9': No space left on device"
> >>>
> >>> I thought that 8.0 should support more than 8 partitions. Maybe it
> does,
> >>>
> >> but
> >>
> >>> then I don't know how to do.
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I believe that FreeBSD does support more than 8 partitions on a disk
> >> (apparently up to 20 using gpart), but that you need sufficient entries
> >> for these partitions to be created in the disklabel, viz.
> >>
> >> gpart create -n 20 ...
> >>
> >> Some testing seems to indicate that you can manually override this by
> >> changing by byte 0x28a of the disk from 0x08 to 0x14, and that bsdlabel
> >> / gpart will then allow you to create further partitions on the disk.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Christopher Key
> >>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Christopher
> >
> > I am not sure if I understand all of if. And I wouldn't like to wipe the
> > drive to test if is possible to "mass produce" partitions like that.
> Could
> > be useful in another situation, though.
> >
> > My knowlodge of GEOM and its utilities is very limited. Since I have
> > succeded in creating the two slices with fdisk and subsequently populate
> > them with bsdlabel, my only problem is how to create the last partition
> from
> > the unpartioned space on da0s2. As mentioned in the beginning of this
> post,
> > I have tried with both bsdlabel (from a file) and by issuing the gpart
> add
> > command. With no luck. Would it be any help to give more specific about
> the
> > drive/slice? The output of df -h | grep dev/da0 is:
> >
> > /dev/da0s2a   3.9G   630M    2.9G    17%    /
> > /dev/da0s2g    97G   160K     89G     0%    /home
> > /dev/da0s2e   3.9G   129M    3.4G     4%    /tmp
> > /dev/da0s2f    48G   6.6G     38G    15%    /usr
> > /dev/da0s2d   9.7G   151M    8.8G     2%    /var
> > /dev/da0s2h   3.9G   1.5M    3.6G     0%    /var/log
> >
> > and of gpart show da0:
> >
> > =>         0  1759551255  da0s2  BSD  (839G)
> >            0     1048576         - free -  (512M)
> >      1048576     8318064      2  freebsd-swap  (4.0G)
> >      9366640     7303168         - free -  (3.5G)
> >     16669808     8388608      1  freebsd-ufs  (4.0G)
> >     25058416    20971520      4  freebsd-ufs  (10G)
> >     46029936     8388608      5  freebsd-ufs  (4.0G)
> >     54418544   104857600      6  freebsd-ufs  (50G)
> >    159276144   209715200      7  freebsd-ufs  (100G)
> >    936891344     8388608      8  freebsd-ufs  (4.0G)
> >    377379952  1382171303         - free -  (659G)
> >
> > and, finaly, of bsdlabel da0s2:
> >
> > # /dev/da0s2:
> > 8 partitions:
> > #        size     offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
> > a:    8388608   16669808    4.2BSD        0     0     0
> > b:    8318064    1048576      swap
> > c: 1759551255          0    unused        0     0         # "raw" part,
> > don't edit
> > d:   20971520   25058416    4.2BSD        0     0     0
> > e:    8388608   46029936    4.2BSD        0     0     0
> > f:  104857600   54418544    4.2BSD        0     0     0
> > g:  209715200  159276144    4.2BSD        0     0     0
> > h:    8388608  368991344    4.2BSD        0     0     0
> >
> > In my desparate effort to understand these informations/data, i have put
> > them into a spreadsheet and rearranged them - including some of my own
> > calculations and assumptions.
> >
> > bsdlabel output - sorted by sector offset:
> >
> > #            size       offset  (GB*)
> > c   1.759.551.255            0    839
> > b       8.318.064    1.048.576      4
> > a       8.388.608   16.669.808      4
> > d      20.971.520   25.058.416     10
> > e       8.388.608   46.029.936      4
> > f     104.857.600   54.418.544     50
> > g     209.715.200  159.276.144    100
> > h       8.388.608  368.991.344      4
> >
> > gpart show output - sorted by sector offset:
> >
> > (#)         (size)    (offset)   (GB)      (offset*)   (GiB*)    (i)
> >         1.048.576            0    0,5              0        1   free
> >  b      8.318.064    1.048.576      4      1.048.576        4      2
> >         7.303.168    9.366.640    3,5      9.366.640        3   free
> >  a      8.388.608   16.669.808      4     16.669.808        4      1
> >  d     20.971.520   25.058.416     10     25.058.416       10      4
> >  e      8.388.608   46.029.936      4     46.029.936        4      5
> >  f    104.857.600   54.418.544     50     46.029.936       50      6
> >  g    209.715.200  159.276.144    100    159.276.144      100      7
> >     1.382.171.303  377.379.952    659    368.991.344      659   free
> >  h      8.388.608  936.891.344      4  1.759.551.255        4      8
> >
> > In the first place, I wondered why gpart would not let me add anoter
> > partiotion. There *should *be lots of free space left. But on closer
> > inspection, it seems that the 659 somehow is '"squezzed'" in. Don't
> really
> > know what all this is about. Allthough this might be a vaste of time,
> since
> > I kan copy, reslice/repartition and copy back, any more comments are
> > welcome.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> I'm not very familiar with geom either, so my apologies if the
> terminology / detail is incorrect.
>
> I think that there are two issues at work here:
>
> Firstly, the size of the partition table.  At the start of the da0s2
> there is a header, with a entries for partition information, i.e.
> offset, size, type etc.  There are a fixed number of entries (8 are
> created by default), and as you create partitions, each of these entries
> gets used up.  The error message "gpart: index '9': No space left on
> device", is a little bit misleading.  It is reporting that all 8 entries
> have been used, and that there is nowhere to store the metadata for a
> 9th partition.  Incidentally, the error message indicating that the
> desired partition wouldn't fit anywhere on the disk would have been
> "gpart: autofill: No space left on device"
>
> There are two ways round this.  The first, only available when you are
> starting from scratch, is to pass "-n 20" to "gpart create", which
> instructs it to create 20 entries for partitions.  The second, somewhat
> dubious method, is to manually edit this header, creating extra
> entries.  By changing byte 0x28a of the disk from 0x08 to 0x14, you are
> effectively creating an extra 12 entries, which can then be used for
> partitions.  This is a bit dangerous, as the extra 12 entries created
> haven't been initialised with any data.  On a new, blank disk, freebsd
> appears to interpret the blank entry as meaning 'no partition defined',
> but I wouldn't want to guarantee this behaviour.
>
> It's possible that there are also other complications that I'm unaware
> of.  Nevertheless, if you're prepared to rebuild the system anyway, I'd
> recommend giving it a try.  Firstly, get a copy of the first 1024 bytes
> of the slice:
>
> dd if=/dev/da0s2 of=/tmp/hdr count=2
>
> Next, edit byte 0x28a (650) of this file, changing it from 0x08 to 0x14
> (or if you know that you only want to add one extra partition then 0x09
> might be safer).  editors/hexedit will probably do what you need, or
> alternatively transfer the file to a Windows box and use something like
> frhed.  Next write the data back to the disk:
>
> dd if=/tmp/hdr of=/dev/da0s2
>
> You should now find that gpart add will work.
>
> The second issue at hand is the fact that the free space is in the
> middle of the disk, with partition h following it.  I don't know why the
> disk has ended up like this, but some testing suggests that gpart knows
> how to deal with this correctly.
>
>
> I hope this helps to explain whats going on.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Christopher Key.
>
> Thanks Christopher

Unfortunately, I have not seen your reply until now. But I appreciate it
anyway. I think I'll start over like you suggest. From the beginning, I just
thought that bsdlabel could handle up to 26 partitions in 8.0-Release, but
obviously this is not the case. So I'll dd the existing partitions to
another drive, use gpart to create "enough" partitions and then dd the old
content back. I could easily use a standard disk layout, but the other
approach will add some to my FreeBSD knowledge..

Regards,
Jon



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