Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:55:02 +0200 (SAST) From: Justin Stanford <jus@security.za.net> To: Guy Poizat <poizat@partsonline.fr> Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG, BUGTRAQ@SECURITYFOCUS.COM Subject: Re: What do folks think of this article? Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0105031154110.62042-100000@athena.za.net> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010503110648.01a85c68@127.0.0.1>
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Same could easily be said for Windows, NT especially.. in fact, you could probably more appropriately say - "Don't wanna be hacked? Don't use any computers!" to be safe. ;) -- Justin Stanford 082 7402741 jus@security.za.net www.security.za.net IT Security and Solutions On Thu, 3 May 2001, Guy Poizat wrote: > There's some statements in that article which are subject to criticism. > It could be (for instance) understood as "Don't wanna be hacked ? Don't use > a unix !", and i think it's not really complete, should be "...Don't use a > unix without planning you will need man-time to watch and update it." > And BTW other OSes's security is subject to the same condition(at least). > > At 19:47 02/05/2001, you wrote: > >* Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> [010502 10:02] wrote: > > > http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/apr2001/nf2001051_727.htm > > > >As usual someone is trying to raise an issue that's > >already common knowledge. > > > >I mean: > > > > "So, where security was concerned, Apple users enjoyed a free > > ride. Same with virus attacks. Mac users avoided the carnage of > > the I Love You virus in May, 2000. Nor did they have to worry > > about nasty Trojan-horse attacks, such as the SubSeven variety > > that could give hackers remote control of a computer. Mac users > > lived in a digital Garden of Eden, a simpler place free of > > serpents." > > "Digital Garden of Eden" ? Well... I think i met my first viruses on > macintoshes. > Moreover, it's easy to have a 'secured' system when no remote services nor > security features (user identification..) are there. My ZX spectrum was > 'secure', too (and especially when powered down !). > I guess that if apple computers would have been as well-spreaded and > popular as other platforms, they would have been subject to some 'show > business friendly' security issues such as 'I Love you' & 'Melissa'... > > >As far as getting the word out on bugs, I find it terribly annoying > >that Bugtraq is now a vendor's forum to spam about security updates, > >it's really irritating to hear about some vulnerability and then > >recieve about 20 emails from different Linux and other Unix > >distributors about the exact same bug. > > That's true. If i WANT to get security advisories for a specific linux > distro or whatever i CAN subscribe the dedicated mailing list. > BTW, i could make my own little OS, full of bugs, and install it on one or > two friend's computers, and have a website to make it 'popular'. Then i'll > be allowed to flood Bugtraq with 'security bulletin' repeating what is > already known, 'cos MY os also use that pretty ntp demon or this cool samba > tool. Would be nice, no ?! > I think there's something to do about it. > Anyway we can't avoid reading stuff useless for our own purposes on > Bugtraq, but at least let's not repeat 10 times the same info. > > this obviously is only my opinion :-) > > >-- > >-Alfred Perlstein - [alfred@freebsd.org] > >Daemon News Magazine in your snail-mail! http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > > > -- > Guy Poizat > poizat@partsonline.fr > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message
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