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Date:      Sat, 29 Dec 2001 19:02:11 -0500 (EST)
From:      Francisco Reyes <lists@natserv.com>
To:        Christopher Schulte <schulte+freebsd@nospam.schulte.org>
Cc:        Francisco Reyes <lists@natserv.com>, <chat@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: experiences (Re: FreeBSD Foundation Accepts Donations via    PayPal)
Message-ID:  <20011229185642.C33145-100000@zoraida.natserv.net>
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20011229143242.03223ea8@pop3s.schulte.org>

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On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Christopher Schulte wrote:

> At 03:25 PM 12/29/2001 -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
> >I think the key phrase is "I have found nobody who does better
> >  than paypal". How about ibill.com? surefire.com?
>
> Never tried them, may look into it.  Thanks.

I have never tried them myself, but ibill looks good "on paper". Their web
site is very informative.


> >Given the concerns which many people are having with Paypal perhaps the
> >FreeBSD foundation may consider having a second option for online payment.
>
> Take a look at http://www.amazon.com/honor/
> It might be a viable alternative, but the fees are a bit high in my
> opinion... 15% and 15 cents, plus there is a max 50 dollar donation per.

I think the FreeBSD foundation could give users 2 or 3 options. People
choose whichever way they prefer. They SHOULD however mention that they
prefer "x type of transaction". For instance just as amazon/honor takes
15% so would ibill (unless the foundation has a merchant account).

Based on my little initial research, the more a company does for you the
more they take. It seems a 15% is a "full service" type of fee. For
instance on ibill I read that if you have a merchant account and only need
them to do the "back-end" processing of the transaction then it is as
little as $1.00 per transaction. On the oter hand if they manage the
entire transactions they charge 15% PLUS it seems they keep a %10 for a
certain amount of time (didn't read that part too much though) to cover
possible cancelled transactions,etc...

In addition to mentioning a preferred method, I think the foundation
should mention how much they actually get from donations through each
method. This way people may opt to use whichever way gives the most to the
foundation.

Then again... they may just stay with PayPall and checks since having
multiple companies for processing billing may get complex.


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