Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 08:58:24 -0800 From: Devin Teske <devin@shxd.cx> To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" <freebsd-arch@freebsd.org>, dteske@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Feedback on proposed loader changes Message-ID: <E8FCC310-5401-43D1-85CB-6A59E64BFE63@shxd.cx> In-Reply-To: <5015.1517478674@critter.freebsd.dk> References: <CANCZdfoF4M1k=wOzueg0KQk9tRoQT-hO0SrB51wxv=-n3ESiUw@mail.gmail.com> <5015.1517478674@critter.freebsd.dk>
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> On Feb 1, 2018, at 1:51 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote: > > -------- > In message <CANCZdfoF4M1k=wOzueg0KQk9tRoQT-hO0SrB51wxv=-n3ESiUw@mail.gmail.com>, Warner Losh writes: > >> So I'd like feedback on two questions: Should I kill the forth features I >> oulined above? And should I make the build system build multiple loaders >> with a link controlling the default? > > I think you should just move forward and go for the end-stage > without too many temporary bandaids. > > The loader is pretty decoupled from everything, so in case anybody > needs any of these Forth cornercases, they can use 11.X loader with > very little, if any, trouble. > As a person that both reviewed the GSoC code you are working with (in-depth; including a list of short-comings) and the most likely person to bring it up-to-par after it is committed, I have 2 opinions: 1. Please allow both boot systems for a while so that the lua-based menu can be made as feature full as the Forth menu. Example: submenus were added in Forth long after the GSoC lua project had ended 2. Please don’t force us to run Lua until I can code the new features And as the principal author of the Forth menu since 9.0: 3. Please give me a way to run my code (at the very least until I can bring the Lua up to snuff; and if I can’t just let me run Forth in-perpetuity). Interrupting boot1 so I can drive the system in the pre-boot Execution env is very important to me. — Devin
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