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Date:      Thu, 25 Oct 2001 15:52:53 +0200
From:      "Patrick O'Reilly" <patrick@mip.co.za>
To:        "Karl Pielorz" <kpielorz@tdx.co.uk>, "FreeBSD Question List" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: ipfw rules for FTP - passive vs. active
Message-ID:  <NDBBIMKICMDGDMNOOCAICEDBDMAA.patrick@mip.co.za>
In-Reply-To: <515708619.1004018251@geko>

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Karl,

thanks for your response.  I guess I am just a few steps behind you, and
desperately hoping NOT to get to the point of giving up.

PS: I posted to FreeBSD because I'm using ipfw and was hoping that ipfw
might have the silver bullet I need.  If so, that is FreeBSD specific.
Anyway, I'm starting to dig deeper into what keep-state can and cannot do.

Patrick.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Karl Pielorz
> Sent: 25 October 2001 14:58
> To: Patrick O'Reilly; FreeBSD Question List
> Subject: Re: ipfw rules for FTP - passive vs. active
>
>
> On 25 October 2001 14:51 +0200 Patrick O'Reilly wrote,
>
> This question isn't really FreeBSD related? :( - If you look in
> /etc/rc.firewall - theres a recomendation on a couple of good books that
> would help you :) Having said all that....
>
> > I must point out that I have never got around to understanding the
> > capabilities of ipfw's stateful rules.  If therein lies the
> solution then
> > just a gentle prod with the clue stick would be much appreciated.
>
> FTP is a notoriously hard protocol to firewall, because as you've
> found out
> - it needs connections to arbitary ports on both machines, both ways...
>
> Infact, we almost gave up - we have our FTP server bound to a single IP
> address, and just firewall to that, permitting access to ports
> 20/21 etc. -
> and to any port over 1024.
>
> We then make absolutely certain there are no other services bound to that
> IP address (e.g. if someone went and installed MySQL - and bound
> it to that
> port, that would be bad, as MySQL runs on port 3306 or similar,
> which would
> be allowed by the rules)...
>
> Infact, as a kind of failsafe, I think we actually blocked MySQL, and a
> couple of other high-port services deliberately to that IP, 'just in case'
>
> -Kp
>
>
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