Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:43:55 +0300 From: Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com> To: Achim Hut <achimhut@achimhut.de> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture Message-ID: <CA%2B7WWScOf1MfOau6y8GuFBX7ufzeXokAf4_gvTrOM1FF99gVUg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <515AB309.30006@achimhut.de> References: <CAF6rxgnYOwAPnpykTAN-Eu=oeee_uBMt1ud8U4RpyKLO5S257Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAOgwaMt2Qvt8c4YvRLJ23sqpODvb00XgwY7Czr%2BJVALXmK1wLA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1304011802360.97433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <944760435.20130401210118@serebryakov.spb.ru> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1304012031370.98303@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <8638v9e22j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <CAOgwaMt0to0SnzwqSOuDAk-Yw1mUrooUPVYYXCUSxY7=hgY9SQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B7WWSeQc3MTRikStJCVBJt30gDhOoNAu1A6NTUfhZ%2BfKegUQg@mail.gmail.com> <515AB309.30006@achimhut.de>
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Achim Hut <achimhut@achimhut.de> wrote: > Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala: > >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >> <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> w= rote: >>> >>>> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes: >>>>> >>>>> Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some >>>>>> firmwares are 64-bit CPU. >>>>> >>>>> don't know of any now in shops that are not >>>> >>>> >>>> http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html >>>> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html >>>> >>>> DES >>>> -- >>>> Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no >>>> >>> >>> >>> I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect to >>> their features and PRICES . >>> >>> It is possible to assemble much more cheaper full featured PC like >>> systems >>> ( DDR3 memory , 64-bit capable processors , with a disadvantage about >>> power >>> requirements ) . >>> >>> >> >> >> Power consumption. > > > > > ...Space - Price - temperature, easy to use, no Fans, no Noise... > > I was surprised about this discussion and first thought, its some kind of > april joke. > > Everybody talks about cheap new 64 bit hardware > > But how about the hardware people are actualy using? In our datacenter we > are running (beside 64bit machines) a large amount of 32bit servers. We h= ave > a room full of spare parts, spare servers... > > And we have no reason to change them to 64bit hardware. HP, IBM, they all > run since years and i am shure, they make 5-10 more years :-) > > And we dont want to stop using FreeBSD after V9.x or so. > > Dont forget there are a lot of different people with different needs out > there. Not everybody puts his focus on a cheap desktop PC thats thrown aw= ay > after 3 years > > Achim It is in fact an April Fools Joke :D However, it does not invalidate some of the points made. ARM is going to dominate the desktop/laptop/tablet/smartphone market very soon and it would be very wise for FreeBSD to shift the focus to it as soon as possible. -Kimmo
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