Skip site navigation (1)Skip section navigation (2)
Date:      Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:43:55 +0300
From:      Kimmo Paasiala <kpaasial@gmail.com>
To:        Achim Hut <achimhut@achimhut.de>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture
Message-ID:  <CA%2B7WWScOf1MfOau6y8GuFBX7ufzeXokAf4_gvTrOM1FF99gVUg@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <515AB309.30006@achimhut.de>
References:  <CAF6rxgnYOwAPnpykTAN-Eu=oeee_uBMt1ud8U4RpyKLO5S257Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAOgwaMt2Qvt8c4YvRLJ23sqpODvb00XgwY7Czr%2BJVALXmK1wLA@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1304011802360.97433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <944760435.20130401210118@serebryakov.spb.ru> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1304012031370.98303@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <8638v9e22j.fsf@ds4.des.no> <CAOgwaMt0to0SnzwqSOuDAk-Yw1mUrooUPVYYXCUSxY7=hgY9SQ@mail.gmail.com> <CA%2B7WWSeQc3MTRikStJCVBJt30gDhOoNAu1A6NTUfhZ%2BfKegUQg@mail.gmail.com> <515AB309.30006@achimhut.de>

next in thread | previous in thread | raw e-mail | index | archive | help
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM, Achim Hut <achimhut@achimhut.de> wrote:
> Am 02.04.2013 12:13, schrieb Kimmo Paasiala:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
>> <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav <des@des.no> w=
rote:
>>>
>>>> Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lev Serebryakov <lev@FreeBSD.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not exact so. Some Atoms on some motherboards with some
>>>>>> firmwares are 64-bit CPU.
>>>>>
>>>>> don't know of any now in shops that are not
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://soekris.com/products/net5501.html
>>>> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html
>>>>
>>>> DES
>>>> --
>>>> Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am NOT able to understand the merit of these products with respect to
>>> their features and PRICES .
>>>
>>> It is possible to assemble much more cheaper full featured PC like
>>> systems
>>> ( DDR3 memory , 64-bit capable processors , with a disadvantage about
>>> power
>>> requirements ) .
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Power consumption.
>
>
>
>
> ...Space - Price - temperature, easy to use, no Fans, no Noise...
>
> I was surprised about this discussion and first thought, its some kind of
> april joke.
>
> Everybody talks about cheap new 64 bit hardware
>
> But how about the hardware people are actualy using? In our datacenter we
> are running (beside 64bit machines) a large amount of 32bit servers. We h=
ave
> a room full of spare parts, spare servers...
>
> And we have no reason to change them to 64bit hardware. HP, IBM, they all
> run since years and i am shure, they make 5-10 more years :-)
>
> And we dont want to stop using FreeBSD after V9.x or so.
>
> Dont forget there are a lot of different people with different needs out
> there. Not everybody puts his focus on a cheap desktop PC thats thrown aw=
ay
> after 3 years
>
> Achim

It is in fact an April Fools Joke :D

However, it does not invalidate some of the points made. ARM is going
to dominate the desktop/laptop/tablet/smartphone market very soon and
it would be very wise for FreeBSD to shift the focus to it as soon as
possible.

-Kimmo



Want to link to this message? Use this URL: <https://mail-archive.FreeBSD.org/cgi/mid.cgi?CA%2B7WWScOf1MfOau6y8GuFBX7ufzeXokAf4_gvTrOM1FF99gVUg>