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Date:      Mon, 08 Jul 2013 05:32:06 +0700
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22C=2E_Bergstr=F6m=22?= <cbergstrom@pathscale.com>
To:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>
Cc:        freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [SPAM] Announcing: nuOS 0.0.9.1b1 - a whole NEW FreeBSD distro, NOT a fork
Message-ID:  <51D9EC66.5010907@pathscale.com>
In-Reply-To: <51D9EBA4.2060207@mu.org>
References:  <51D9E499.103@nuos.org> <51D9E641.5020905@pathscale.com> <51D9EBA4.2060207@mu.org>

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On 07/ 8/13 05:28 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> On 7/7/13 3:05 PM, "C. Bergström" wrote:
>> On 07/ 8/13 04:58 AM, Chad J. Milios wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> Outline of features:
>>>
>>> Extends plain old FreeBSD 9.1 (RELEASE or STABLE) and maintains 
>>> total compatibility
>>> We seek to remain nimble
>>>     Expect a production-ready seal of approval to lag behind 
>>> releases by no more than a week or two
>>>         and prebuilt images and packages
>>>         e.g. releases like 9.2 and 10.0, et al
>>>             Someone should be able to build it and use all 
>>> applicable features on 8.4 with ease
>>>                 we simply haven't the time or inclination to even try
>>> Default full ZFS filesystem layout, completely legacy-free
>>>     Boot from ZFS, boot to ZFS
>>>         If you'd like use all 100.0% of all your drives for one 
>>> large zpool
>>>         Use one large zpool for all of your
>>>             filesystems
>>>             block volumes
>>>             alternate boot environments, including one called 
>>> "rescue" which is included
>>>     NO partitions, not some tiny /, not even a /boot
>>>         Just ZFS datasets in their infinite flexibility
>>>             /etc is now a ZFS dataset of its own
>>>                 How did we do it?
>>>                     Decades of conventional wisdom says /etc must be 
>>> on /.
>>>                     Check it out, discuss the whys and the trade-offs.
>>> nu_jail - provision all sorts of jails
>>>     No guesswork
>>>     Yet no cookie-cutter limitations
>>>     Clean-room jails provisioned almost instantly
>>>     ZFS clone of /etc and /var give you almost no storage overhead
>>>     nullfs and/or unionfs mounts of /, /usr, /usr/local give you 
>>> almost no memory overhead
>>>         Run 1,000 jails and 10,000 Apache instances
>>>             they safely access the same executable memory pages
>>>             they securely know not of one-another's existence
>>>     Advanced intra-host networking with VIMAGE kernel by default, 
>>> simplified
>>>     Made for developers who want robustness, power and flexibility 
>>> streamlined for
>>>         Unlimited development, testing, staging and production 
>>> environments
>>>     Uses all of the new jail and vnet features of FreeBSD 9.1
>>>         We cleaned out all of the cruft left over from earlier versions
>> <trolling side comment>
>>     omg you've created Solaris
>> </trolling side comment>
>> ------------
>> If you're going to spam commercial stuff with absolutely no 
>> technically interesting details - please keep it brief at the least.
>>
>> Generally people will be curious about
>> What are you actually adding to the ISO which FBSD-current can't do? 
>> If it's not upstream already - will it be contributed upstream?
>
> It seems pretty obvious to me that the contribution is that all this 
> stuff works out of the box.  That is pretty nice.
Ok so I repeat my question
----
If the current ISO doesn't do this - why not? (bugs fixed, different 
configuration. etc)  If it's not upstream already - will it be 
contributed upstream? (clearly someone is interested in this)




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