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Date:      Wed, 20 Apr 2016 01:52:01 +0300 (MSK)
From:      Dmitry Morozovsky <marck@rinet.ru>
To:        Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org>
Cc:        Vsevolod Stakhov <vsevolod@highsecure.ru>, freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Intrusion Detection using pkg?
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1604200146470.34198@woozle.rinet.ru>
In-Reply-To: <5714BE83.1060909@FreeBSD.org>
References:  <d9571b48-bea2-a791-c536-af9549166155@freebsd.org> <5714BA56.50704@highsecure.ru> <5714BE83.1060909@FreeBSD.org>

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2016, Matthew Seaman wrote:

[snip]

> > Unfortunately, after years of useless discussion we have no sane
> > signatures scheme in pkg, and I have no desire to continue these
> > discussions I'm afraid.
> 
> I believe the current package signature stuff serves its purpose, which
> is to verify that the package tarball in question originated from an
> identified and trusted source and hasn't subsequently been tampered
> with.  Which is fine, but there's a definite use-case for going further...

Well, I suppose we have usual problem here: "doing security well is a pain, and 
doing it bad is simple and lead to false sense of security" (smilies at will)

For all years being a system admin and/or architect I'm thinking about 
non-controversal (and useful) model of PKI or something similar, but still 
failed :(

Which set of data are we going to protect?  And how to protect the point for 
protection (both reliably and useful for day-to-day procedures)?

Well, I also suppose this could be more a matter for -security@ also...

-- 
Sincerely,
D.Marck                                     [DM5020, MCK-RIPE, DM3-RIPN]
[ FreeBSD committer:                                 marck@FreeBSD.org ]
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