Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 04:01:12 +0100 From: Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@freebsd.org> To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: David <freebsd@telaman.net.au> Subject: Re: Of interest ... Message-ID: <17871ca1-d9bc-3780-9db1-32ac56598346@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <5a6c4583-ae4b-4dc8-c50b-ef5afb0d6c62@ludikovsky.name> References: <132735c0a861896a9ba3e1fb93ae24f62a24be78.camel@telaman.net.au> <c86cc505-79de-62d5-89da-c3d17b3cca8f@aetern.org> <5a6c4583-ae4b-4dc8-c50b-ef5afb0d6c62@ludikovsky.name>
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Technical knowledge shared there is lost. <br> </p> <p>The lobby at <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://discord.com/channels/7= 27023752348434432/727023752348434436"><https://discord.com/channels/72= 7023752348434432/727023752348434436></a> is social, added benefits (not seen with IRC) include threading. So it can be easier to find the social chat without the technical non-social chat. People do choose to take themselves away from the lobby, to more appropriate channels =E2=80=93 please see, for examp= le, this screenshot that can't be attached because (contrary to the rules expressed in the FreeBSD Handbook) some emails are never delivered. <br> </p> <p>FreeBSD via <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://mat= rix.to/#/#FreeBSD:matrix.org"><https://matrix.to/#/#FreeBSD:matrix.org= ></a> is more open, and Matrix/Element threading is debatably superior to Discord threading, however there's encouragement to keep things on topic (to FreeBSD) in this FreeBSD room.=C2=A0</p> <p><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"https://github.com/free= bsd/freebsd-doc/pull/187"><https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-doc/pull= /187></a> was drafted to update Community and Support menus and content.<br> </p> <p>Last but not least, you can discuss <span dir=3D"auto">anything related to free, libre and open source software in </span><a moz-do-not-send=3D"true" href=3D"https://matrix.to/#/#foss_discussion:matrix.org">FOSS Lovers=E2=9D=A4</a><span dir=3D"auto"> <br> </span></p> </body> <lt-container></lt-container> </html> --------------0ONIcM1ow20GN2hn4ohPvtAZ-- --------------21AqOs4X7mOFpPQdd707Fuwq-- --------------nntZdShZcE7Xncshry4yo7QI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="OpenPGP_signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OpenPGP_signature" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- wsF5BAABCAAjFiEEWT/lssMHB+28ly8Kt2dIb0oY1AsFAmTMafgFAwAAAAAACgkQt2dIb0oY1Ata sxAAnsoEEGUyvbKjmAMmrWkYvNTgz1tDYq8m5ha1mb87Xhr72792eBfjuCr/iUXNqwsJmg6gLmSq gwzqVOXuvrCXwKSk8HOEQBra3P8jnb19VjUJzpVva5q6XDX/XZIhM+B+WC2PPOgTf0OPifnbyiB4 DWGNjRnJdC+Hm7oSnzKK3bCaZnHtGYJhdYE88d12DhTOYuPC4DcMc7v46wJvx2OFmlagzGo7bh/8 EeCenETuht3q1qaYE9YlMh252tzRCgGU2Yd5raXe4b5k44rtlTtx+YQOLYmGzRxGB5l9HHWDfFJC TgSdeu89Igqa2tr9EdJ/eT488QmS457bCVPk7BmNzsIOhgjGAVx3V/JxoRyTOEaRJjEg72DQSvPR 8wGybAgHsA7lFk+vh13SFzLGsOzCQdLn8BRhX+9cDOsaYTU9mNc9rKNvn/vtBPHvfHIZeYa1TdE4 tUKjq44uFt4fTV5TlGmkZY4p791DZ5Od9rvOrIYlSYG/S+jbt0o7CRsdDd5vhVezSGg3/Ytclomm HFHIqJ1xCwQueBkyR9KwedCxwltv4JooeslmvhxE2GK3dpA11eZslLeSbOVMXmrC1rUJTVaRzkUF yvZTbR8Aya5iCOHcBjFPDJayheuwti12Y07+jpeWx2oUh7smr9XIkiVjIPjrKUS6BBZS8EtL8z/f WTA= =gMQ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------nntZdShZcE7Xncshry4yo7QI--
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