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Date:      Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:53:08 -0500
From:      parv <parv_@yahoo.com>
To:        "Gary W. Swearingen" <swear@blarg.net>
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: how to modify a "word" definition
Message-ID:  <20011118015308.B15285@moo.holy.cow>
In-Reply-To: <5kzo5k4t8e.o5k@localhost.localdomain>; from swear@blarg.net on Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 08:07:29PM -0800
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in message <5kzo5k4t8e.o5k@localhost.localdomain>, 
wrote Gary W. Swearingen thusly...
> 
> [wrote Crist J. Clark]
> >
> > Look for 'IFS' in bash(1).
> 
...
> "IFS" works for command line "words" as
> parsed when interpreted, at least for my shell (ksh), doesn't work for
> command line editing commands which involve "words" (like delete last
> word).  I see no control for these kind of words.
 
i just experimented w/ this; of course, above is true. so setting IFS
wouldn't help. 


> If you want really good control over mousing things (in or out of X),
> use the XEmacs (or similar) shell mode where you can make the mouse
> recognize any thing you want and even have it (with ctrl, shift, alt,
> extra characters, etc.) grab words, lines, URLs, filenames, or whatever,
> and have it run commands (eg "Netscape -remote", "xemacs --read-only")
> on the selection. 

i see only 2 "standard" editing modes in bash and ksh: "emacs" and 
"vi". no "XEmacs" mode; i suppose you were referring to "emacs"
mode... which i already have.


> (Unfortunately, the terminal emulation is not as
> good as xterm, so I wind up having to use xterm for running interactive
> non-GUI programs.  It has a second terminal emulator which is is good
> enough for such programs but I don't use it for reasons I forget.)
 
i am confused now as i thought you were referring to a shell and now
you are referring to xterm (emulation)... going dizzy...


> Of course, it's also much better than xterm for keybanging of shell
> command input and output.  You have all the standard editing features
> and more.  Searching of the input+output history (arbitrarily long)
> is especially handy.  Another handy command is "delete output of last
> shell command" (ctrl-c ctrl-o).  

what exactly is "output history"? and, how is it possible to "delete 
output of last shell command" if the output was sent to stdout/stderr? 


> (The special shell-mode commands
> all start with ctrl-c, so "ctrl-c ctrl-c" is xterm's "ctrl-c".)

i will take a wild guess as i am thoroughly confused now, but could
you be implying here "emacs-ctlx" keymap as introduced (but not 
explained) in the bash(1)?

- parv

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