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Date:      Sat, 4 Oct 2003 11:41:33 -0700
From:      Bill Campbell <freebsd@celestial.com>
To:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: plateful of crow (was Re: Frequent reboots...)
Message-ID:  <20031004184133.GB61680@alexis.mi.celestial.com>
In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.22.0.20031004131055.059275a0@209.112.4.2>
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On Sat, Oct 04, 2003, Mike Tancsa wrote:
...
>'plate o crow' like humble pie are very common dishes.  I have had many a 
>helping myself..... Problems of this variety are really crappy. Its soooo 
>much easier when hardware just fails. Marginal power supplies I find are 
>the worst.  I find that enabling core dumps help. If the crash is in a 
>different and seemingly random place each time, I will look at hardware 
>issues quicker.

In my experience, a huge percentage of hardware problems trace
back to bad fans, particularly those in the power supplies.  This
is particularly true in the cheap commodity boxes where cost is
more important than quality.

PC Power and Cooling is on our speed dial.

Bill
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