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Date:      Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:39:38 +0100
From:      Rolf Nielsen <listreader@lazlarlyricon.com>
To:        Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>
Cc:        Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Effing HAL
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Adam Vande More wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 2009/10/30 Adam Vande More <amvandemore@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>> Where's your config files, your errors logs, your stats?
>>>
>> I am not going to reply to you after this because you are blinkered. I'm
>> not going to waste my time with you. I've given you more than enough to feed
>> on, but you just can't smell the coffee.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Adam Vande More
>>>
>>
>> MF.
>>
> 
> 
> Okay go play with your ISA bus, while the rest of us enjoy PCI.
> 
> 

Seems this is more about control than actual quality of software. One 
wants to keep control, one wants to release control completely to the 
software.

Personally I prefer to keep control, therefore I have disabled HAL. Does 
that mean my system is bad? I can't see that it does. Does it mean I say 
HAL is crap? It could, but I haven't tried enough to make such an 
accusation.

I'd like to draw a parallel (this will be pretty basic, but a more 
involved discussion will be far too much OT).
I'm type 1 diabetic, and I use an insulin pump. The basic purpose of 
having a pump instead of several injections a day, is replacing the 
long-acting insulin with a constant feed of rapid-acting insulin, thus 
mimicking a functioning pancreas. And for the longest time, that was all 
they did. And the user had to tell the pump how much insulin he/she 
needed, both the constant feed and with meals.
Nowdays, the pumps have evolved, and with most of them, one can simply 
tell it what a meal contains, and it calculates the proper amount of 
insulin. And the next generation will constantly measure the blood sugar 
and decide the amount of insulin automagically.

Just like those evolved pumps will be great for people who don't want to 
bother, HAL may be an excellent idea for people who don't want to 
congfigure everything themselves. And just like I prefer to decide how 
much insulin I want rather than having a machine decide for me, I prefer 
to configure my computer and all installed software rather than have 
software configure itself... Does that mean I am an idiot? If so, then 
I'm proud to be an idiot.



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