Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 15:27:07 -0700 From: Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> To: Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net> Cc: "Neal E. Westfall" <nwestfal@directvinternet.com>, Joshua Lee <yid@softhome.net>, dave@jetcafe.org, tlambert2@mindspring.com, crap@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Message-ID: <20020906152707.A30018@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <642600A8-C1B2-11D6-A71E-000393A335A2@earthlink.net>; from lomifeh@earthlink.net on Fri, Sep 06, 2002 at 12:04:58PM -0400 References: <20020905190756.A54861@FreeBSD.org> <642600A8-C1B2-11D6-A71E-000393A335A2@earthlink.net>
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* De: Lawrence Sica <lomifeh@earthlink.net> [ Data: 2002-09-06 ] [ Subjecte: Re: Why did evolution fail? ] > > On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 10:07 PM, Juli Mallett wrote: > <snip some> > > iirc, as the god of life was known then), Judaism was born after ages > > passed, and from there, we end up with Christianity these days. It > > would > > be more correct to say that Hebrew tribal elders made up hell; you are > > forgetting that the roots of Christianity are in Judaism. > > > Judeo-christian faiths don't have the market on hell or hell-like > places. Hinduism and Buddhism both have a hell like place. I cannot > recall the names for it. Of course, but I'm talking in a single known lineage, and the one being misappropriately represented. > > And of course they made it up, it fulfills a number of low-level > > desires > > of the human psyche. > > > > Not that I'm not a religious person myself, it's just important to > > remember > > that all of this came from tribal traditions and warring, and that all > > of > > Wicca came from a lecherous old man who decided to take from Celtic and > > old European religions throughout the ages, and that Jesus was a man, > > and > > a great man, and a man who said great things. > > > > That doesn't mean any of it isn't true. Just because one "makes > > something up" > > doesn't mean it's false. It could be inherent in-born knowledge. > > > Many of the worlds religions share the same basic tenets. Things like > views on stealing, killing, the idea of an afterlife. Ever read > anything by Carl Jung? He talks of a collective unconcious and race > memory. Really interesting stuff. Hmm, nope, not recently. Ever read "The Power of Myth"? > > I prefer to believe that all beliefs are valid, most are probably > > somewhat > > right, and none are "wrong". > > > I disagree. There is right and wrong in the world. Killing another > human being is wrong for example. An interesting side note, early > catholicism was against war, period. Later it was rationalized and > made ok. So even a religion's belifs change and would be wrong > depending on the period. Many times right and wrong are not determined > by truth but by those in power. But that doesn't mean there are some > universal truths about what should be right and should be wrong. I'm talking about rightness/wrongness in spiritual Truth(tm). > > It's all about people and perception. Unfortunately, this universe > > seems > > built with the intentions to get people to look beyond perception - > > things > > have inherent beauty and structure at levels below what the eye can > > see, > > people are not always what they appear to be, and enjoying it is what > > really > > matters, to me. > > The problem is many people refuse to look between the lines if you > will. Many blindly accept what they are told to believe as though it > were canon. If you look hard enough and in the right way even chaos > has a pattern. Does this mean that there is a God? I cannot say for > anyone but myself :). But there seems to be a pattern to all things. > And beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. chaos has very clear patterns. -- Juli Mallett <jmallett@FreeBSD.org> | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve Will break world for fulltime employment. | finger jmallett@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message
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