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Date:      Mon, 17 May 2021 23:55:41 -0700
From:      Mark Millard via freebsd-bugs <freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org>
To:        Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "Python 37/38 conflict, was Re: Trubles compiling lxqt on RPi4" [really: list interface replacement generates bad textual content]
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On 2021-May-17, at 23:37, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt at FreeBSD.org> =
wrote:
>=20
>=20
> 18 mai 2021 06:50:03 Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>:
>=20
>> On 2021-May-15, at 22:22, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> =
wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>>> 16 mai 2021 05:29:07 Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>:
>>>=20
>>>> In exploring I've seen various web-page presentation of
>>>> freebsd-bugs messages that seem to be messed up. An
>>>> example is:
>>>>=20
>>>> . . .
>>>=20
>>> Nice catch, I will fix it
>>>=20
>>=20
>> The extra text disappeared when I later looked at the
>> pages via the URLs.
>>=20
>> But I've run into another oddity. I did a google
>> search for:
>>=20
>> "Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin"
>>=20
>> and then used the 1st link shown, the one from the text:
>>=20
>> QUOTE
>> https://lists.freebsd.org =E2=80=BA freebsd-arm =E2=80=BA =
2019-December
>> Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. MACCHIATObin ...
>> Dec 2, 2019 =E2=80=94 Comparing the OverDrive 1000 (A57) vs. =
MACCHIATObin Double Shot (A72) for buildworld and via a CPU/cache/RAM =
tradeoff-exploring ...
>> END QUOTE
>>=20
>> which has the link (it is for one of my old messages):
>>=20
>> =
https://www.google.com/url?sa=3Dt&rct=3Dj&q=3D&esrc=3Ds&source=3Dweb&cd=3D=
&ved=3D2ahUKEwiPhp3OtdLwAhVH6Z4KHaXQC68QFjAAegQIAxAD&url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fl=
ists.freebsd.org%2Fpipermail%2Ffreebsd-arm%2F2019-December%2F020854.html&u=
sg=3DAOvVaw2VHrNUGc-Vce4CjAmTufxq
>>=20
>> Or, extracting/converting the relevant part of that text:
>>=20
>> =
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020854.html
>>=20
>> This now takes me to the wrong message on the list, one titled:
>>=20
>> Re: 64 bit ARM systems with more than four cores Ed Maste
>>=20
>> Turns out that the my old message now shows up as 2 later
>> by number (020854 -> 020856):
>>=20
>> =
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2019-December/020856.html
>>=20
>> gets to the message with the correct title.
>>=20
>> It appears that the numbering has not been preserved
>> in the conversion. This can make google search results
>> that point into the (older) freebsd lists
>> problematical.
>>=20
>>=20
>> =3D=3D=3D
>> Mark Millard
>> marklmi at yahoo.com
>> ( dsl-only.net went
>> away in early 2018-Mar)
>=20
> 99.9% of the tume the numbering is preserved, sometimes it is not =
given the weirdness of the things that happened in the past. i will dig =
into this specific case to see what I can do. But don t expect much =
here.
>=20

FYI:

In my "binary search inspired" looking around everything
I looked at that was old but more recent than 2014-Dec-23
had the offset of 2. Everything older than 2014-Dec-10
worked. Those dates are as close together as I got.

(Finding things that have useful google search matches in
a time frame is messy so the results are limited. It
would be nice to find a better way to looking up old
references.)

Example:

"lsof on FreeBSD/arm" goggle search click through to page

vs.:

Tuesday, 23 December 2014
. . .=20
	=E2=80=A2 Re: lsof on FreeBSD/arm Larry Rosenman=20
	=E2=80=A2 [Differential] [Commented On] D1317: Build gperf as a =
dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste)=20
	=E2=80=A2 [Differential] [Updated, 8 lines] D1317: Build gperf =
as a dependency before gcc for arm releases emaste (Ed Maste)=20

It gets on to the message for last line (still off by two for the
number, like what I reported already):

By contrast:

"watchdogd not working anymore (since r273154+)" google search click =
through

vs.:

Wednesday, 10 December 2014
. . .
	=E2=80=A2 Re: RPi - watchdogd not working anymore (since =
r273154+) Andreas Schwarz=20

worked.

=3D=3D=3D
Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com
( dsl-only.net went
away in early 2018-Mar)




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