Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2017 15:34:58 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org> To: George Mitchell <george+freebsd@m5p.com> Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Getting off topic (Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc) Message-ID: <20171006133458.p4neunzmu3mqypa2@ivaldir.net> In-Reply-To: <674d9501-6093-166f-bcf2-b4ac9ba87d06@m5p.com> References: <20171004161649.GA51883@mail.michaelwlucas.com> <20171004171518.GA22519@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171006074128.gg76cd72u7wxybd3@ivaldir.net> <20171006081342.GA34314@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171006082025.msfyxzia3muf7lfp@ivaldir.net> <674d9501-6093-166f-bcf2-b4ac9ba87d06@m5p.com>
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--frvciogcklecn536 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 01:28:59PM +0000, George Mitchell wrote: > On 10/06/17 04:20, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 08:13:42AM +0000, Steve Kargl wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 06, 2017 at 09:41:28AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 05:15:18PM +0000, Steve Kargl wrote: > >>>> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 12:16:49PM -0400, Michael W. Lucas wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Poudriere really needs its own small book. Yes, you can do simple > >>>>> poudriere installs, but once you start covering it properly the docs > >>>>> quickly expand. My notes alone are longer than my af3e chapter > >>>>> limits. (I'll probably publish "FreeBSD Packaging Misery^WMastery" = in > >>>>> 2018). > >>>> > >>>> Please include a discussion on how to use poudriere on > >>>> a system with limited resouces (e.g., 10 GB of free > >>>> diskspace and less than 1 GB free memory). I know > >>>> portmaster works well [1] within an environment with > >>>> only 4 GB free diskspace and 1 GB memory. > >>>> > >>>> [1] portmaster worked well prior to portmgr's decision > >>>> to displace simple small tools in favor of a sledge > >>>> hammer. > >>> > >>> FUD.. portmgr never took any decision like this. > >>> The problem with portmaster (beside some design flows regarding > >>> the "not build in a clean room") is that it is not maintained anymore. > >>> (Note that it has never been maintained by portmgr at all). > >> > >> I'm well aware of Doug Barton's history with FreeBSD. You > >> can paint it with whatever color you want. > >> > >> If you (and other poudriere) contributors stated that flavors/subpacka= ges > >> would not be supported by poudriere, would flavors/subpackages been > >> wedged into the ports build infrastructure? > >=20 > > Yes because if you look at mailing lists etc, you ould have figured out= that > > this is the number one feature requested in the ports tree for years. > >=20 > > Also yes we would have make sure that the tools used to build official = packages > > would have worked with it, prior poudriere it was tinderbox. > >=20 > > And again we are giving time (and warning in advance) for all the tools= to catch > > up! > >=20 > > Best regards, > > Bapt > >=20 > Speaking solely for myself, I am more than pleased by all the work > Baptiste and fellow developers have put into the ports infrastructure. > THANK YOU! But also, portmaster is a life saver for me with my 4GB > build machine, so I hope I can participate in reviving it. -- George >=20 Thank you, I will be more than happy to merge patches in https://github.com/freebsd/portmaster which makes it handle flavors Best regards, Bapt --frvciogcklecn536 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEgOTj3suS2urGXVU3Y4mL3PG3PloFAlnXhn8ACgkQY4mL3PG3 PloUExAAgd50F3l5wNPqCoVus37VWM0FYA3z22Hd3ke/VLz3r8VbSXJ/pcHYN5Vi k6gLrTp4P7QcNOQ/6LAZKfLk11qgb9AAHyEZBWTjPqrob8dnL0ppSQfnXUzSHGyV FVlp7zncvoxESugt4lvGV59of8zENQ5kV/Y4pWAbxymDeUcrINxXrVVql3w/SqT2 K7hbSKwQmNqnD4/GxWWq3o/IkhsJTtnNXKcE4HXig+rmQeIP8qaec1GvCK2PFqRH OPVH+U3s8S+QkJ8CkiWXVsO5OgleoIwX5t19UdzYJjlbH72eVqXnwNYuHCNz6ZBy dbaEQlUUYxG8aL/+mqf8RtyUI9IiALxiaPb+Koau+t5C2oHjl7rIUXxboPTizCVK 1FcymnNrJriJb7FmgAM8RUtCuRAK1sggIhzIL6qTe6mvm34UFTUv9+8DQkFh29cr SDcnswGhQrEYIji+cXK9y0l+nNyAtRJjzH2HLYUP8NXyi5VQ8siBwQyftQ3/Ft/y CfiO4n/9mt/bTwPVTb/lnUflyA5JoAK9i4wzAJpmN+zBFg6///BkSz86Cb2KqY1X ZHb6EKt/DPz3ELWBmiZrGlF0wB5GcsMCJ6HFIshUHRS6v9SI+mhPjG1zrC66IqQM XozVLrbpj27BjQbMHDeuGytK62Z8j2QtR3/N2cnLepduEsaQWUM= =QPTP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --frvciogcklecn536--
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