Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2013 22:44:44 +0200 From: Niclas Zeising <zeising@freebsd.org> To: Thomas Mueller <mueller6724@bellsouth.net> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, Matthew Rezny <mrezny@hexaneinc.com> Subject: Re: ports/156405: x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati driver: no hardware rendering Message-ID: <521E613C.9090506@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <682705.3346.bm@smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <682705.3346.bm@smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>
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This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) ------enig2FIOBXJIBOOJWOVIIBOPH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 08/28/13 22:21, Thomas Mueller wrote: > I had this type of problem with NetBSD 5.1_STABLE and 5.99.x even with = native X that is part of the base system, as opposed to pkgsrc X. I can't comment on how NetBSD does things, since I haven't used it. >=20 > I could return to a text console in the dark and type "shutdown -r now"= or even type the command to go back into X, successfully. In general, this can work. It did last time I tested, but that was some time ago so things might have changed. >=20 > Can that be done with FreeBSD, new Xorg and KMS, or is the system just = crashed? The system is definitely not crashed once you go out of X, the only thing that isn't working is the text console. >=20 > With serial ports becoming obsolete, what can one use for or in place o= f a serial console? FireWire. I haven't tested myself, but have a look at http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kern= eldebug-dcons.html for instructions on how to use FireWire as a console. >=20 > Would it work to have two xorg.conf files, one with Intel driver and th= e other with vesa? Then could you go back to a working console when usin= g the vesa driver? Once you've loaded the KMS awawre kernel module, there is no way to get the console back short of a reboot of the system. >=20 > I've wondered (call it X acrobatics) how to switch between root and non= root, and between window managers, without going back to text console. You could try some sort of desktop manager, such as gdm or kdm. I've not used them on FreeBSD, but on linux they make it possible to have several users logged into X at once, and switching window manager, and so on. As for root, it is generally considered a bad idea to run X as root. If it's just a root terminal you need, you can always open an xterm (or your favorite terminal emulator) and use su or sudo. Regards! --=20 Niclas Zeising ------enig2FIOBXJIBOOJWOVIIBOPH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (FreeBSD) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSHmFPAAoJELuNS1e7i1VRnfIP/3vb546NDxRP5TbgnBPDvRuN R8JFlohR1pWJMosZ9pq05QYcf1fnNHe+NDVVTNuKZlVe9+keJYZ3yA9NZQwgSymy 7Q/v7tGV08Q0YBn2n2N99+yH/5+dASRRCG9zrBcjFxNqwFE0tRrHsG3csh/qNpzf yIKOAgKJdSdwBZ1jTnwhryswqMSNdEBP03p7UtT5yT6OLHGE+uNr57tPzGvOipO3 0Unpj3cPcZ1IQ+1X2bhB/kG4+JdscW6kRRG8BzAcNmNsbzF+3q2/NYPxnIMihair edpc6Xot5fVw3O6OpUUG9Jh1GJSPHEZ5hCB9s+qqPiZLlTNEA5JHUjF54/rsB8S4 J/jxV+6I6KNx9B++/qStrq7LCmxDg6wi/ff9RTuRadkmBVW40YtLSRnnsLGENrlg gvG9+lqfE80oPIvnPnvgMSspF2o332zVeG3E1ciT1Qele4DJS3HP9Xh3vY9gJFC+ GhaoYHxj/3Hcakw/6hu0vRHwGAmOUgo7UAq1dnKjWWvJ840nQkeP5pYzG1LZSyKF eTfIWYfn7XPZSCq4slS+Q+lPUdhiDFuns5LON8rjxLfRHAgrJdyIkt3rK2SEG0ZR 5dY6H/S+TOb/WnkRKk7b/AeO/Kf+xXCvKCj/Y8UcsZDndHYevStFrWAMHtLClOwQ oZwvMMhftpyMfP4i+5r9 =0gz7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------enig2FIOBXJIBOOJWOVIIBOPH--
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