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Date:      Tue, 16 May 2006 17:34:58 +0000
From:      Hunter Fuller <hackmiester@hackmiester.com>
To:        pauls@utdallas.edu
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Is it recommended to allow all outgoing connections from your firewall??
Message-ID:  <637FEE6F-1603-4187-BC6A-B351666ABBE3@hackmiester.com>
In-Reply-To: <6B0EC275D1AE8D66D26A2093@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local>
References:  <20060511012211.12062.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com> <6B0EC275D1AE8D66D26A2093@paul-schmehls-powerbook59.local>

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On  11 May 2006, at 1:56 AM, pauls@utdallas.edu wrote:

> --On May 10, 2006 6:22:11 PM -0700 Mark Jayson Alvarez  
> <jay2xra@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Because if the machine has been compromised, it doesn't *matter*  
> what the outgoing ruleset is.  Or what anything else is, for that  
> matter.
What if you're not in, but you can initiate an outgoing connection?  
 From a buggy PHP script on a web server for example?
>
> If I hack your box, one of the first things I'm going to do is  
> install a rootkit.  Then I'm going to wipe the logs of any evidence  
> of my entry (but leave them intact otherwise), clean my tracks from  
> the shell history file and remove any other evidence of my  
> presence.  "Bypassing" your firewall rules is the least of my worries.
>
> Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
> Adjunct Information Security Officer
> The University of Texas at Dallas
> http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/




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