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Date:      Sun, 9 May 1999 14:52:36 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      John K <john@volvo.se>
To:        Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   RE: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSD/.3.91.990509144407.7037C-100000@nike.volvo.se>
In-Reply-To: <6C37EE640B78D2118D2F00A0C90FCB440110586A@site2s1>

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On a side note:
I heard somewhere that the Mircosoft IP stack includes NetBios information
in it=B4s TCP/IP headers ( //Computernames and so on) and that this is why
you can "browse the network" even if there=B4s no NetBeui on your=20
windows box.

I haven=B4t disassembeled any packets to see if it is true though.

Best Regads
John

On Sat, 8 May 1999, Christopher Michaels wrote:

> HUH?!  What in the world makes you think you can't browse w/o NetBEUI?  A=
ll
> NetBEUI is, is a protocol, such as IPX and TCP/IP.  They are interchangea=
ble
> at that level and have nothing to do with browsing.  I happen to
> intentionally not install NETBEUI on my windoze (95/98) machines and only
> have TCP/IP, browsing works just fine (why have multiple protocols when t=
hey
> aren't needed? less overhead I say).  Browsing is determined more by subn=
ets
> and wins servers and the like.
>=20
> Now down to the original question...
>=20
> Are the Samba / win98 / NT machines all on the ip subnet and all in the s=
ame
> workgroup/domain?
> What type of machine is the "master browser", NT server?
> Can you manually connect to the FreeBSD machine from the NT machines, e.g=
.
> using NET USE \\MACHINE\SHARE ?
>=20
> -Chris
>=20
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:=09Kent Stewart [SMTP:kstewart@3-cities.com]
> > Sent:=09Monday, May 03, 1999 3:05 PM
> > To:=09Wayne Shiver
> > Cc:=09freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject:=09Re: Not able to see freebsd machines on NT machine
> >=20
> > I assume you are running SAMBA. Win 9x usually chooses to setup
> > NETBEUI. That is an add-in option on NT that most serious networks
> > choose to leave out. You can end up with broadcast storms when your NT
> > servers have NETBEUI  installed. You can't browse without NETBEUI. You
> > can, however, connect by using \\netbeui-name\share. Then, you don't
> > have the overhead of NETBEUI on your NT servers and the serious
> > side-effects. I think I have netbios over tcp/ip, which is the default
> > I think, but it has been a few months since I had to tinker with my NT
> > machines. I am trying different configurations on FreeBSD and mostly
> > telnet to the FreeBSD system. I don't want them running SAMBA.
> >=20
> > Kent
> >=20
> > Wayne Shiver wrote:
> > >=20
> > > For some strange reason I can see freebsd machines in Windows 98 but =
not
> > > on any of our NT workstations or servers. Does anyone no how to get
> > > around this problem?
> > >=20
> > > Wayne
> > >=20
> > --=20
> > Kent Stewart
> > Richland, WA
> >=20
> > mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com
> > http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html
>=20
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