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Date:      Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:32:52 -0800
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "Sasa Stupar" <sasa@stupar.homelinux.net>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd Theme Song)
Message-ID:  <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNMEBDFDAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <6F4719B836FB9479D8754136@[192.168.10.249]>

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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Sasa Stupar
>Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 2:21 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>Theme Song)
>
>
>
>
>--On 18. december 2005 1:33 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
><tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net]
>>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:25 AM
>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson
>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>>> Theme Song)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --On 16. december 2005 3:36 -0800 Ted Mittelstaedt
>>> <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Sasa Stupar [mailto:sasa@stupar.homelinux.net]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 12:34 AM
>>>>> To: Ted Mittelstaedt; danial_thom@yahoo.com; Drew Tomlinson
>>>>> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>>>> Subject: RE: Polling For 100 mbps Connections? (Was Re: Freebsd
>>>>> Theme Song)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ted
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmmm, here is test with iperf what I have done with and
>>> without polling:
>>>>> **************
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001
>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default)
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1088 connected with
>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001
>>>>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
>>>>> [1816]  0.0-10.0 sec   108 MBytes  90.1 Mbits/sec
>>>>>
>>>>> This is when I use Device polling option on m0n0.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I disable this option then my transfer is worse:
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> Client connecting to 192.168.1.200, TCP port 5001
>>>>> TCP window size: 8.00 KByte (default)
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> [1816] local 192.168.10.249 port 1086 connected with
>>>>> 192.168.1.200 port 5001
>>>>> [ ID] Interval       Transfer     Bandwidth
>>>>> [1816]  0.0-10.0 sec  69.7 MBytes  58.4 Mbits/sec
>>>>> ***************
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: my router is m0n0wall (FBSD 4.11).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> what are the cpu speeds and operating systems of all devices
>>>> in the packet path, what is the make and model of switchs in
>>>> use, provide dmesg output of the bsd box, a network diagram
>>>> of the setup, etc. etc. etc.
>>>>
>>>> The above test results are not replicatable and thus, worthless.
>>>> Useful test results would allow a reader to build an exact
>>>> duplicate of your setup, config it identically, and get identical
>>>> results.
>>>>
>>>> Ted
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK. The server (192.168.1.200) is FreeBSD 5.4 with Duron 900
>and 3C905C
>>
>> The 3com 3c905 is not a very good card under FreeBSD the driver was
>> written
>> without support from 3com and is shakey on a lot of hardware.  I would
>> say
>> there's a big question that your server is actually saturating the
>> ethernet.
>> Probably that is why your only getting 90Mbt.
>>
>>> NIC; router is m0n0wall (FreeBSD 4.11) with three Intel
>>> Pro/100S Nics and
>>> Celeron 433; The user computer (192.168.10.249) is Celeron 2400
>>> with winxp
>>> and integrated NIC Realtek 8139 series. Switch is CNET CNSH-1600.
>>>
>>
>> Once again, the winxp+realtek 8139 is not a particularly
>steller combo,
>> I would question that this system could saturate the ethernet, either.
>>
>>> Diagram: <http://me.homelinux.net/network.pdf>;
>>>
>>> dmesg from the router:
>>> ----------------
>>> $ dmesg
>>> Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
>>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991,
>1992, 1993, 1994
>>> The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>>> FreeBSD 4.11-RELEASE-p11 #0: Wed Sep  7 13:49:09 CEST 2005
>>>    root@fb411.neon1.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/M0N0WALL_GENERIC
>>> Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
>>> CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (434.32-MHz 686-class CPU)
>>>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x665  Stepping = 5
>>>
>>> Features=0x183f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,P
>>> GE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR>
>>> real memory  = 201326592 (196608K bytes)
>>> avail memory = 179142656 (174944K bytes)
>>> Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc1006000.
>>> Preloaded mfs_root "/mfsroot" at 0xc100609c.
>>> Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
>>> md0: Preloaded image </mfsroot> 11534336 bytes at 0xc0504d9c
>>> md1: Malloc disk
>>> Using $PIR table, 8 entries at 0xc00fdef0
>>> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
>>> npx0: INT 16 interface
>>> pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
>>> pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
>>> pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device
>>> 1.0 on pci0
>>> pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
>>> isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
>>> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
>>> atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xf000-0xf00f at
>>> device 7.1 on
>>> pci0
>>> ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
>>> ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
>>> uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port
>>> 0xd000-0xd01f irq 11
>>> at device 7.2 on pci0
>>> usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
>>> usb0: USB revision 1.0
>>> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>>> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>>> chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port
>>> 0x5000-0x500f at
>>> device 7.3 on pci0
>>> pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x1274, dev=0x1371) at 8.0 irq 11
>>> fxp0: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xd800-0xd83f mem
>>> 0xd0400000-0xd041ffff,0xd0460000-0xd0460fff irq 10 at device
>>> 15.0 on pci0
>>> fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:62:f6:06
>>> inphy0: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus0
>>> inphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>>> fxp1: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xdc00-0xdc3f mem
>>> 0xd0420000-0xd043ffff,0xd0462000-0xd0462fff irq 12 at device
>>> 16.0 on pci0
>>> fxp1: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:9c:2a:16
>>> inphy1: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus1
>>> inphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>>> fxp2: <Intel 82550 Pro/100 Ethernet> port 0xe000-0xe03f mem
>>> 0xd0440000-0xd045ffff,0xd0461000-0xd0461fff irq 7 at device
>19.0 on pci0
>>> fxp2: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:8c:e4:f6
>>> inphy2: <i82555 10/100 media interface> on miibus2
>>> inphy2:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
>>> pmtimer0 on isa0
>>> fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq
>>> 2 on isa0
>>> fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
>>> fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
>>> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
>>> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
>>> sio0: type 16550A, console
>>> sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
>>> BRIDGE 020214 loaded
>>> IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing.
>>> IP Filter: v3.4.35 initialized.  Default = block all,
>Logging = enabled
>>> ad0: 3098MB <WDC AC33200L> [6296/16/63] at ata0-master PIO4
>>> acd0: CDROM <LITE-ON CD-ROM LTN-527T> at ata1-master PIO4
>>> Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c
>>> fxp1: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
>>> fxp0: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
>>> fxp2: Microcode loaded, int_delay: 1000 usec  bundle_max: 6
>>> ata0: resetting devices .. done
>>> -------------
>>>
>>> If you need more just ask for it. You don't need to be angry. Peace.
>>>
>>
>> OK, next question:
>>
>> ftp transfer like this uses large packets, rerun the test with ping -f
>> with different ping packet sizes, post the results.
>>
>> Remember, routers have to deal with many sized packets.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>
>Interesting. I have tested like you've said and I could ping
>with packet
>size 1450 bytes. Everything bigger is telling that "packet must be
>fragmented but DF is set up". This is of course pinging from winxp to
>server.

That is normal since under winxp ping sets the DF bit I believe.

The larger packets are not what matters, the smaller packets are more
interesting.  I find it hard to believe your getting the same throughput
with
flood pinging with 56 byte packets.

Ted




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