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Date:      Tue, 12 Dec 2017 15:19:50 +0000
From:      "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@denninger.net>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: http subversion URLs should be discontinued in favor of https URLs
Message-ID:  <26614.1513091990@critter.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <6fff232c-65c0-34bc-a950-0e79eda025c8@denninger.net>
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In message <6fff232c-65c0-34bc-a950-0e79eda025c8@denninger.net>, Karl Denn=
inger
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>> As I mentioned humoursly to you in private email, I don't think
>> this particular problem will reach consensus any sooner if you =

>> also tangling it in the SVN vs GIT political issue.
>
>Fair enough but I think my underlying point -- that svn ought to provide
>the ability to distribute signed bits, and if it can't then it should
>either be wrapped or augmented to do so if possible, and tossed if not,
>remains valid.

It sure does, but knowing crypto-code and knowing the projects
decision making process about such things, I see neither adding that
to svn nor replacing svn as feasible this side of 2020.

>Removing unencrypted transport is thus IMO a net bad as it *claims* to
>address this but doesn't.  That's bad because you now lead people to
>*believe* they have a secure means of tracking the project's bits but
>that's factually false.

+1

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