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Date:      Thu, 04 Jan 2018 03:35:24 +0100
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
To:        "David M. Syzdek" <david.syzdek@acsalaska.net>
Cc:        Eric van Gyzen <vangyzen@FreeBSD.org>, "freebsd-security\@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com>
Subject:   Re: Intel hardware bug
Message-ID:  <867esy2vwz.fsf@desk.des.no>
In-Reply-To: <7C58A6DB-0760-4E5A-B65D-2ED6A6B7AAD2@acsalaska.net> (David M. Syzdek's message of "Wed, 3 Jan 2018 13:43:08 -0900")
References:  <19097.1515012519@segfault.tristatelogic.com> <02563ce4-437c-ab96-54bb-a8b591900ba0@FreeBSD.org> <7C58A6DB-0760-4E5A-B65D-2ED6A6B7AAD2@acsalaska.net>

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"David M. Syzdek" <david.syzdek@acsalaska.net> writes:
> They did not say it is *NOT* a bug, just that it is not a bug unique
> to Intel.  [...] Additionally, they indirectly imply that both AMD and
> ARM chips are affected by the same bug, however this is, at least in
> AMD=E2=80=99s case, appears to be directly refuted [...] by AMD:

There are three different issues.  One of them (CVE-2017-5754, labeled
=E2=80=9CMeltdown=E2=80=9D) is easily mitigated and has so far only been sh=
own to affect
Intel processors.  The other two (CVE-2017-5753 and CVE-2017-5715,
collectively labeled =E2=80=9CSpectre=E2=80=9D) affect AMD and ARM processo=
rs as well
and have no known workaround.

So far, it has been shown that an unprivileged process can read data
from the kernel (Meltdown) and other processes (Spectre), and that a
privileged process in a VM can read data from the host and presumably
also from other VMs on the same host (Spectre).

DES
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Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no



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