Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 15:09:16 -0800 From: "Chris H" <portmaster@BSDforge.com> To: "Adam Weinberger" <adamw@adamw.org> Cc: "Kurt Jaeger" <lists@opsec.eu>, "FreeBSD Ports" <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>, <bsd-lists@BSDforge.com> Subject: Re: Procmail Vulnerabilities check Message-ID: <2ef893d490f2d7de268fad588cd0e456@udns.ultimatedns.net> In-Reply-To: <81316CF1-E914-4306-9F37-A444447ECABD@adamw.org>
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:54:54 -0700 "Adam Weinberger" <adamw@adamw=2Eorg> said > > On 8 Dec, 2017, at 20:11, Chris H <bsd-lists@bsdforge=2Ecom> wrote: > > > > On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 02:59:28 +0100 "Kurt Jaeger" <lists@opsec=2Eeu> said > > > >> Hi! > >> > > > First, there is movement afoot to remove sendmail from FreeBSD a= nd =20 > >> > > > replace it with dma(1)=2E > >> > Hmm=2E This does not come as good news to me=2E I've been working on an = =20 > >> antispam > >> > system that targets the use of Sendmail, > >> If sendmail is available via ports, wouldn't that be enough ? > > Thanks for the reply, Kurt=2E > > Perhaps=2E Haven't tried it yet (means even more work)=2E :( > > But hopefully=2E > > I thought all my work would have been more valuable, given that Sendmai= l > > was installed by default in FreeBSD=2E Disappointing, but perhaps still = =20 > > doable=2E > > Time will tell=2E >=20 > Hi Chris, >=20 > I=E2=80=99d argue that if your work loses value if sendmail is removed fr= om base =20 > (suggesting that users wouldn=E2=80=99t choose sendmail when given an opt= ion from=20 >=20 > ports), then that suggests that sendmail isn=E2=80=99t the right thing to= include=20 >=20 > in base=2E Base should ship with the thing that we expect the majority of = =20 > users to WANT to choose=2E >=20 > Clearly there are many users who still prefer sendmail=2E Your work still h= as=20 >=20 > value! Thank you, Adam for the thoughtful reply=2E I'm not arguing it's intrinsic value with Sendmail=2E But rather; I was just indicating that it would be of more value to FreeBSD users, given that that would *likely* be their MX, as Sendmail is installed so out of the box=2E Meaning; Since FreeBSD has (largely) already set it up for them, they're probably already using it, and that means more Sendmail users *by default*=2E :-) Thanks again, Adam=2E --Chris >=20 > # Adam >
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