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Date:      Sat, 30 May 2009 17:49:45 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
To:        Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: On the need for moderated questions lists
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.0905301742090.18381@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
In-Reply-To: <87ws7zgl4v.fsf@kobe.laptop>
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> But the choice you have in a strictly moderated mailing list is about
> the same as the choice my people had in that particular oppressive
> regime: leave or stay to fight a hopeless battle.

Thinking your way - if someone will come to my home and will do what i do 
not accept - can i force him to go out?

Yes i can. He can do the same in another house where it's accepted.

Those who don't agree with the moderation rules will use unmoderated one 
(this), with all it's (dis)adventages.

> That's what bothers me with strict moderation.  It hinders the freedom
> of expression of people, forcing them to go through unreasonable hoops
> whenever their personality is slightly different from the 'permitted'
> forms of straight-jacket.

You talk about that, but when i hear things like "shut up" it's fine of 
course? So how you define freedom? Freedom for all EXCEPT someone?

You seem to favor rules defined by those who shouts louder.

I at first placed thought about leaving that list at all, seeing that 
rulership of shouting crowd starts to win. Unfortunately to many here i 
stayed and will stay, because i know that what start at discussion forum 
WILL end in the product - FreeBSD.

The same happened in linux, (not exactly) the same happened with NetBSD, 
and now there is no usable unix other than FreeBSD.

Just please don't joke and say OpenBSD ;) it's not even funny.

> This is a lot of text to go through, even in a semi-automated manner.

it's not possible to automatize this unfortunately.



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