Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 15:56:20 -0700 From: Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org> To: Niclas Zeising <zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org> Cc: Tomasz CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>, freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: drm-i915kms + x11-intel eats out all of the ram and swap but not with x11-scfb Message-ID: <50b6f48e-ef5e-3ac3-47f5-6e5ada288549@nomadlogic.org> In-Reply-To: <8bab0627-c7a2-8c8a-41d9-6e099afa1209@daemonic.se> References: <CAFYkXj=HQ6NKx=_4fG5vyPokdL5FBpdiKccVChL-w7Q=Ty=w5w@mail.gmail.com> <19d0dbdc-f1ac-22f1-6934-076bb5733ab7@daemonic.se> <CAFYkXj=Tq4y_a_=ikiuspDbX6wK4qqPj5qturaZ3OS5CU4zQJw@mail.gmail.com> <24c43065-527d-499b-282a-43df2a947a1d@gmail.com> <CAFYkXjn7iwa7rmZVUYS75qKe6UeN8mBREG6h-n1zMt8UTS9whA@mail.gmail.com> <lfmu-2ghu-wny@FreeBSD.org> <20200418024954.GB6251@FreeBSD.org> <1ab0b060-ee43-3e0d-4f9c-ebad1e92c57e@nomadlogic.org> <8bab0627-c7a2-8c8a-41d9-6e099afa1209@daemonic.se>
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On 4/17/20 11:57 PM, Niclas Zeising wrote: > On 2020-04-18 05:58, Pete Wright wrote: >> >> >> On 4/17/20 7:49 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 07:01:49PM +0200, Jan Beich wrote: >>>> ... >>>> Unlikely. modesetting reached "good enough" level while X11 is >>>> deprecated in favor of Wayland. >>> X11 is certainly not going anywhere as it mostly works just fine and no >>> replacement is needed. You guys can play with Wayland or whatever the >>> next cool kid on the block is called as long as you wish but please let >>> it be your pain, not ours. >>> >>> Deprecating X11, huh. That's preposterous! >> You should let the Xorg development team know your opinions on this >> topic. the freebsd graphics team is trying to make sure that when >> upstream does make the cut over to wayland we are not left totally out. >> >> i would also say that *now* (well probably several years ago) is the >> time for us as a community to get engaged with wayland development. >> there are already lots of linux and systemd assumptions being made by >> their development efforts, so this is our opportunity to make sure >> our voices are heard before it's too late. > > The Freedesktop.org upstream (the ones responsible for xorg and > wayland) are aware of us, and quite helpful in getting FreeBSD > specific code in, so I'm not too worried there (as long as we bring > the code, at least). I'm more worried about the people making various > wayland compositors and wayland desktop environments though. thanks for the clarification here - that is def an important distinction i did not make. -pete -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA
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