Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 15:55:43 -0600 From: Jason Bacon <bacon4000@gmail.com> To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <0454ed16-8835-4577-2eeb-479be3756cb0@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <996c704c-9ea4-6463-1339-958aa2d3798c@gmail.com> References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <CAOtMX2gh98wbQ48S51QwpYfrnexpVb4vL%2BFVuxgLnT1otYjuAQ@mail.gmail.com> <bc3ba6502d5c5776f44304ff7878a5eb@bsdforge.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.2111240056470.68830@ai.fobar.qr> <d45757d9-b5ca-e1c7-5a1c-18159227de17@gmail.com> <CACc-My1jjd=7rSpEA8rg6y_Qq=ebL-WsTZdhv40Zs=F=XfZqyg@mail.gmail.com> <CACc-My0Fu8yORoi8DW9dCL8EgmmRodH9YdMwNeFDybmDWpCRXQ@mail.gmail.com> <371b758c-1efa-b5df-6437-ce4f06369383@gmail.com> <23c3e735-22b5-7528-e311-d75657c33a69@gmail.com> <CACc-My0k-ZM-WxxDjKyCF7Z%2B2ZUgpYK27TRKH=SEvZ_OoS3kfg@mail.gmail.com> <996c704c-9ea4-6463-1339-958aa2d3798c@gmail.com>
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On 12/1/21 11:01, Floyd, Paul wrote:
> On 2021-11-30 18:55, Stefan Blachmann wrote:
>> On practically every Linux distro Nouveau is the quasi standard driver
>> for any type of Nvidia cards, as the proprietary Nvidia drivers are
>> non-free category.
>> So I think one can consider Nouveau as very well-tested and reliable
>> and that porting it to FreeBSD would be worthwhile, profiting many
>> users who would else either have to buy a new graphics card or migrate
>> to Linux.
>
> When I first installed Fedora, it defaulted to nouveau = black screen.
>
> So I switched to non-free nvidia. This breaks on a fairly regular basis
> due to incompatible kernel changes. DKMS will try to rebuild the kernel
> module, which fails = black screen. I retried nouveau again a couple of
> times, still always a black screen. That gave me the impression that
> nouveau is unmaintained. Sounds like I was wrong there.
>
> You kind of get used to it, hitting alt-f2 for a console login and
> waiting a few days or weeks for non-free nvidia to catch up.
>
> By comparison I've had almost no problems with the nvidia drivers on
> FreeBSD.
>
> A+
>
> Paul
I have only one anecdote from CentOS, where the closed-source nVidia
drivers caused breakage during routine Yum updates. I switched the
machine to nouveau and everything was fine from then on.
I've also seen the closed-source drivers cause an occasional panic on
FreeBSD. Seems less of a problem recently than many years ago.
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infinitely more to the human race than to the particular country in
which he was born.
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