Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:25:34 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> To: Ivan Voras <ivoras@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSD license compatible hash algorithm? Message-ID: <4774F94E.50203@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9bbcef730712280518k56696002w1437ec3469e2eeb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <5950EE0C-383D-4D6B-9991-A0DEABD2ADE4@u.washington.edu> <20071228003716.GB48997@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> <B8D4C3C6-B867-4550-9F17-4DC6930D10E2@u.washington.edu> <fl2qiv$qoh$1@ger.gmane.org> <4774EF27.90307@gmail.com> <9bbcef730712280454w6b6f5e17s33631223d5571f83@mail.gmail.com> <4774F42C.5030105@gmail.com> <9bbcef730712280510v14806e7exb960f5da5f05e4d@mail.gmail.com> <4774F651.7060905@gmail.com> <9bbcef730712280518k56696002w1437ec3469e2eeb2@mail.gmail.com>
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ivan Voras wrote: > On 28/12/2007, Aryeh M. Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Depends on the size of the table... I work with a algrothem that >> regularly has tables between 2^32 and 2^64 buckets (even though >> the we use a slightly different terminology) > > This looks like an interesting project - are you using hashes not > for speed but as a generic storage organization algorithm? > > And, I think at least some of the popular non-crypto hash > algorithms could be easily extended to work with 64-bit integers - > are you really using the "big" hashes for this? > Yes using it as a DB table indexing, the exact details are under an NDA but I can give some numbers though like a table lookup on a 2^32 record table requires no more then 4 disk reads (averages out to between 3 and 4) and 2k or RAM [namely gives O(log_k(n)) we have, successfully used k>=256 even though k=256 is the most natural value, time performence and O(1) when considering primary store requirements only... in other words when the table size = 2^processor word size you need word size/8 lookups at most to find anything])... hopefully once the patents are in place I can give more details (I am hoping to make the reference implementation as FOSS as possible {while not invalidating the strength of the patent} [see my blog for details on the business model I am planning]) - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHdPlOzIOMjAek4JIRAgahAJ95GpzAS+e1607NcdHg6m33BokCSgCglgJG +BVo+ZCKvA1S3p2/HsNzyds= =MKKp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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