Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:28:25 +0400 From: Gleb Smirnoff <glebius@FreeBSD.org> To: David Duchscher <daved@tamu.edu> Cc: net@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: new CARP implementation Message-ID: <20110815132825.GJ43567@glebius.int.ru> In-Reply-To: <A23AEC0C-6C23-4FC9-B36A-01CF3DE1311F@tamu.edu> References: <20110810160526.GO43567@FreeBSD.org> <5D7408D3-FAA1-4E22-A136-83DC75D47837@tamu.edu> <20110814084813.GA43567@glebius.int.ru> <67BC462C-0F5D-41E2-B739-CFC9EB417FA6@tamu.edu> <20110815120750.GF43567@glebius.int.ru> <A23AEC0C-6C23-4FC9-B36A-01CF3DE1311F@tamu.edu>
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On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 07:56:14AM -0500, David Duchscher wrote: D> > On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 03:56:28PM -0500, David Duchscher wrote: D> > D> > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 07:32:06PM -0500, David Duchscher wrote: D> > D> > D> My two cents. D> > D> > D> D> > D> > D> We rely on the arp load balance feature. We certainly don't find it useless. Looking at ip load balancing, it would also mean that we would no longer be able to grow bandwidth with additional systems since all boxes must receive all traffic. I only humbling ask that some sort of load balancing feature be included when this goes live. D> > D> > D> > D> > Ok, I will make effort to support it. I will inform when patch would D> > D> > be updated. D> > D> D> > D> Thank you. D> > D> > On closer look it appeared that restoring ARP balancing as it was, isn't going D> > to be easy. The essence of ARP balancing is that different vhids possess the D> > same IP address. Converting that to new scheme would mean that same IP prefixes D> > exist on one interface, which is impossible in current networking stack. And D> > making it possible would be a bloody hack. D> > D> > So I'd prefer to settle current code a bit, commit it to head, after 9.0 is D> > forked and released... Test and settle code a bit more... And then work on D> > ARP and IP balancing. That would probably require bringing in some intermediate D> > structure along with struct carp_softc, that would group softcs into D> > balancing groups. That is already done in OpenBSD. Not sure that our balancing D> > would be compatible with OpenBSD's, however the current is not already, since D> > OpenBSD changed their hashing function after we merged carp(4) to FreeBSD. D> D> This sound good to me. I have no requirement for compatibility with OpenBSD. In addition, we only use the extended support versions of FreeBSD so 9.0 will not be something we will put into production. The new CARP isn't going to appear in 9.x, since I am too late with my patch. It would be present in 10.0 and later. However, I plan to maintain an easily applicable patch for 9.x. However, I'd suggest you to try new CARP earlier than 10.1-RELEASE is out. May be in a test lab. I'm afraid that number of people utilizing ARP balancing is so small, that without your testing, feature would go untested into release ;) -- Totus tuus, Glebius.
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