Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2010 11:34:23 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> To: Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Improve OptionalObsoleteFiles.inc Message-ID: <20101005113423.10801orcw6xef9s0@webmail.leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimsaWe-ZyUNW0Teg=%2B7w4TR=4hoOTk%2BeBOdHqSO@mail.gmail.com> References: <AANLkTikXQmzE4r8wNbxp_Xp7u-5URj66DrOfC1JaK5jA@mail.gmail.com> <20101004122325.11342p9v1rnwp6w4@webmail.leidinger.net> <AANLkTimYCA3rRHgbtjPX=sGHd2mXURHBotNB=KHJi9AR@mail.gmail.com> <20101004123629.GA4308@straylight.ringlet.net> <AANLkTimWMUFrj1OfUVEaPKactWr9sWJhvVW2MfDPSB7T@mail.gmail.com> <AANLkTimsaWe-ZyUNW0Teg=%2B7w4TR=4hoOTk%2BeBOdHqSO@mail.gmail.com>
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Quoting Gonzalo Nemmi <gnemmi@gmail.com> (from Tue, 5 Oct 2010 01:30:00 +0200): > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Paul B Mahol <onemda@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 10/4/10, Peter Pentchev <roam@ringlet.net> wrote: >>> On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 11:01:45AM +0000, Paul B Mahol wrote: >>>> On 10/4/10, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@leidinger.net> wrote: >>>> > At least status-mailq is still useful with other MTAs, e.g. if you use >>>> > postfix (and assuming the mailwrapper is configured correctly), this >>>> > should still work. Depending on the setup of the aliases, >>>> > backup-aliases will still work too. I haven't checked for the other >>>> > ones. >>>> >>>> If you want to keep some "old" files, you just need to press `n' instead >>>> of `y' >>>> when deleting files. You are not forced to run make delete-old at all. >>> >>> On the other hand, doing this (skipping those files) on each and every >>> system >>> update (say, on a development or testing machine) could get a bit... boring >>> - >>> not to mention that at some point you'll learn to "oh, just say no", and >>> then >>> forget to remove something important. >> >> Oh! I see... I want it in black. > > Hold your horses there ... get it to work as expected and then, > _and_only_then_ you can start raising your finger and accussing poster > of bikesheding ... > As it stands, _it_sucks_ and I have already pointed it out before > without much success (something as useless as telnet wasn´t deleted a > not so long time ago) ... Peter Pentchev´s point was a completely > valid one. As the one who wrote the functionailty: The delete-old stuff is designed to delete stuff which was installed by an installworld (or similar) before, but is not installed by installworld (or similar) now. As there may be old programs around which depend upon such a file or directory, you have to explicitely tell if you are ok to delete it or not (it is the responsability of the administrator to make sure everything is OK). If you are sure no program still depends upon it (make check-old), you can specify -DBATCH_DELETE_OLD_FILES to delete everything without being asked (see "man build"). As we've read in this thread that the files I would like to keep are not installed by an installworld if the corresponding option is specified, the patch is 100% correct and Peter and you want to use delete-old for something it was not designed for (and I should discuss somewhere else to install the files I talked about even if the corresponding option is specified). Bye, Alexander. -- Detroit is Cleveland without the glitter. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137
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