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Date:      Wed, 9 May 2001 17:45:02 -0700
From:      "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com>
To:        "the-beach" <sam2539@the-beach.net>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: Isn't the freebsd.org mail server too paranoid?
Message-ID:  <007f01c0d8ea$727fd120$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com>
In-Reply-To: <B71D6CAA.6949%sam2539@the-beach.net>

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Wonderful.  Although, maybe you can dig around and find another
mailserver on their network that is set up properly.  What
about sending all this to the parent company instead of the
local administrators?

Ted Mittelstaedt                      tedm@toybox.placo.com
Author of:          The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide
Book website:         http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com


>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>[mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of the-beach
>Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 6:28 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
>Subject: Re: Isn't the freebsd.org mail server too paranoid?
>
>
>>   Maybe you better consider
>> the possibility that the ISP _is_ right, and "the-beach"
>> _is_ crazy.  Before throwing any more bottles can we get
>> some accountability here?  Like perhaps some more details
>> before flying off the handle?  Let's see some names and
>> IP numbers please!!!!
>
>Charter has bought up a lot of cable companies. The Charter I get my
>connection from is the-beach-net.
>
>Registrant:
>Charter Communications, LLC (THE-BEACH8-DOM)
>   12444 Powerscourt Drive, Suite 100
>   St. Louis, MO 63131
>   US
>
>   Domain Name: THE-BEACH.NET
>
># nslookup
>> server ns1.root.com
>Default Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>> set q=MX
>> the-beach.net
>Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>
>the-beach.net   preference = 10, mail exchanger = mail.the-beach.net
>the-beach.net   nameserver = server01.the-beach.net
>the-beach.net   nameserver = server02.the-beach.net
>mail.the-beach.net      internet address = 209.187.153.19
>mail.the-beach.net      internet address = 209.187.153.21
>server01.the-beach.net  internet address = 209.187.153.2
>server02.the-beach.net  internet address = 209.187.153.3
>
># nslookup
>> server ns1.root.com
>Default Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>
>> mail.the-beach.net
>Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>Name:    mail.the-beach.net
>Addresses:  209.187.153.19, 209.187.153.21
>
>> 209.187.153.19
>Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>
>*** Request to ns1.root.com timed-out
>> 209.187.153.21
>Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>
>*** Request to ns1.root.com timed-out
>> set q=NS
>> the-beach.net
>Server:  ns1.root.com
>Address:  209.102.106.178
>
>Non-authoritative answer:
>the-beach.net   nameserver = server01.the-beach.net
>the-beach.net   nameserver = SERVER02.the-beach.net
>
>##Now look here, even the reverse on their own nameserver isn't pointing at
>the mail server.
>
># nslookup
>> server server01.the-beach.net
>Default Server:  server01.the-beach.net
>Address:  209.187.153.2
>
>> mail.the-beach.net
>Server:  server01.the-beach.net
>Address:  209.187.153.2
>
>Name:    mail.the-beach.net
>Addresses:  209.187.153.19, 209.187.153.21
>
>> 209.187.153.19
>Server:  server01.the-beach.net
>Address:  209.187.153.2
>
>Name:    server05.the-beach.net
>Address:  209.187.153.19
>
>> 209.187.153.21
>Server:  server01.the-beach.net
>Address:  209.187.153.2
>
>Name:    server07.the-beach.net
>Address:  209.187.153.21
>
>##Let's start at the top and see.
>
># nslookup
>> server A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
>Default Server:  A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
>Address:  198.41.0.4
>
>> 153.187.209.in-addr.arpa.
>Server:  A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET
>Address:  198.41.0.4
>
>Name:    153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
>Served by:
>- DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
>          199.191.128.106
>          187.209.IN-ADDR.ARPA
>
>> server DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.net
>Default Server:  DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
>Address:  199.191.128.106
>
>Name:    153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
>Served by:
>- ns01.convergence.com
>          207.53.75.8
>          153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
>- ns01.half-moon.net
>
>          153.187.209.in-addr.arpa
>
>> server ns01.convergence.com
>Default Server:  ns01.convergence.com
>Address:  207.53.75.8
>
>> mail.the-beach.net
>Server:  ns01.convergence.com
>Address:  207.53.75.8
>
>*** Request to ns01.convergence.com timed-out
>> 209.187.153.19
>Server:  ns01.convergence.com
>Address:  207.53.75.8
>
>*** Request to ns01.convergence.com timed-out
>> server ns01.half-moon.net
>*** Can't find address for server ns01.half-moon.net: Timed out
>
>Had enough?
>
>Flying off the handle.
>Cart before the horse.
>Jump the gun.
>Something about babies and bathwater...fat ladies... |)
>
>
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