Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:15:08 +0000 From: Freminlins <freminlins@gmail.com> To: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> Cc: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Effing HAL Message-ID: <eeef1a4c0910291615x288a8a2nacdd335fb0dca410@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <BA9912258E343B9627BA075A@utd65257.utdallas.edu> References: <eeef1a4c0910291455y6cee991md9f8c7f2824e54ca@mail.gmail.com> <BA9912258E343B9627BA075A@utd65257.utdallas.edu>
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2009/10/29 Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com> > Far be it from me to pile on when you're already so frustrated, but I run > into these sorts of problems myself from time to time. It's usually because > I didn't bother to read /usr/ports/UPDATING first, which in this case might > have warned you. > Yeah, thanks for that. I knew about that file, but don't often read it. There's even more to the saga - Xkblayout doesn't work. This whole HAL thing stinks horribly. IF X is built with HAL basically certain options specified in xorg.conf no longer work. HAL thinks it knows best. But it doesn't, cos it's broken. What really gets my goat about this is that things that used to work, and people understand how they worked and how they were configured, no longer work. And I'm 18MB of RAM worse off into the bargain. There's a thread about other people's experience here: http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=10924#post10924. One of the posts contains these words "I've been fighting this one for two days now, and still don't have a fully working system." That's seriously nasty for anyone. The whole Xorg thing, at least on FreeBSD, is just a minefield. I like to remove unnecessary packages, to save space for when I do backups. I don't have an Nvidia card on this box so: pkg_delete xf86-video-nv-2.1.13 pkg_delete: package 'xf86-video-nv-2.1.13' is required by these other packages and may not be deinstalled: xorg-drivers-7.4_1 xorg-7.4_1 Great. So what is the point in having a separate package if I can't remove that damn thing? I know I can pkg_delete -f, but why make it hard? > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst MF
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