Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 22:18:32 +0100 From: Sergio Carlavilla <carlavilla@freebsd.org> To: ykla <yklaxds@gmail.com> Cc: Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tooling Integration and Developer Experience Message-ID: <CAFwocyMq%2Bb87sEnyVF5=o3CqPHZP-_CdKVV8oz1FHVrFrHPAbQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CA%2BPGaYDAZFFWCJoUKgH36WOHeSGnvXXvWMg%2BCrBH=LS8-zgD6w@mail.gmail.com> References: <202301300254.30U2sm0k061914@dell.no.berklix.net> <97020cad-f913-2985-2093-e4c23bf671e3@antonovs.family> <86357sxsly.fsf@cthulhu.stephaner.labo.int> <CA%2BPGaYD4nRtodOxZWdd11f1eXrP_EXxYRGLY4f3PpvNw-ViyrA@mail.gmail.com> <Y9ec/fbWPodGjyoP@home.opsec.eu> <CA%2BPGaYDAZFFWCJoUKgH36WOHeSGnvXXvWMg%2BCrBH=LS8-zgD6w@mail.gmail.com>
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--000000000000982f4b05f381c284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El lun., 30 ene. 2023 18:06, ykla <yklaxds@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3: > Hi, > > The documentation project on reviews.freebsd.org is also very inactive. > For example, it's been almost 3 months since I submitted my revision - > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322. After I submitted it, it was neither > reviewed nor approved for a long time. Now, due to changes in the FreeBSD > documentation, some of my changes conflict with the current documentation > and are difficult to resolve. I suppose I could spend some time going ove= r > it again and again, but if no one accepts it, it is pointless. Maybe I > shouldn't make such extensive changes to the documentation.Can you advise > me on how I should go about doing this? Thanks a lot. > > ykla > > Kurt Jaeger <pi@freebsd.org> =E4=BA=8E2023=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8830=E6=97=A5= =E5=91=A8=E4=B8=80 18:33=E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > >> Hello, >> >> > I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seeme= d >> to >> > exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except >> for >> > the automated bug reports from the bots. >> > I have not had any replies to my several posts either. >> >> > So can the admins tell how many people actually >> > subscribe to FreeBSD-doc, >> >> The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@)= . >> >> > or is this just a place to report bugs and people >> > should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that >> almost >> > nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation? >> >> From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of >> workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so >> not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer. >> I had the same problem... >> >> I see doc-stuff happen mostly on reviews.freebsd.org. (speaking >> as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person >> as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling. >> >> -- >> pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 Now what ? >> . > > Hi, No, your patch is not pointless. I know that your patch was submitted one month ago, but we're in the review of the complete handbook. I'll try to use your patch in some parts of the review. Sorry if you think that your work is not take in consideration, this is not our idea. My public apologies, as I said, I'll try to use your patch in some places. Of course I'll mention you in the commit in these places. About huge patches, please, create minor patches and put me as a reviewer. And again, thanks for your work. > --000000000000982f4b05f381c284 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">El lun., 30 ene. 2023 18:06, ykla <<a href=3D"mailt= o:yklaxds@gmail.com">yklaxds@gmail.com</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c= cc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,=C2=A0</div><div><br></= div><div>The documentation project on <a href=3D"http://reviews.freebsd.org= " target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">reviews.freebsd.org</a> is also very= inactive. For example, it's been almost 3 months since I submitted my = revision - <a href=3D"https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322" target=3D"_blank"= rel=3D"noreferrer">https://reviews.freebsd.org/D37322</a>. After I submitt= ed it, it was neither reviewed nor approved for a long time. Now, due to ch= anges in the FreeBSD documentation, some of my changes conflict with the cu= rrent documentation and are difficult to resolve. I suppose I could spend s= ome time going over it again and again, but if no one accepts it, it is poi= ntless. Maybe I shouldn't make such extensive changes to the documentat= ion.Can you advise me on how I should go about doing this? Thanks a lot.<br= ></div><div><br></div><div>ykla</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di= r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">Kurt Jaeger <<a href=3D"mailto:pi@freebsd= .org" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">pi@freebsd.org</a>> =E4=BA=8E= 2023=E5=B9=B41=E6=9C=8830=E6=97=A5=E5=91=A8=E4=B8=80 18:33=E5=86=99=E9=81= =93=EF=BC=9A<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px= 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hel= lo,<br> <br> > I had a similar thing happen to me, the mailing list FreeBSD-doc seeme= d to<br> > exist as if no one existed, and there was no one posting in it except = for<br> > the automated bug reports from the bots.<br> > I have not had any replies to my several posts either.<br> <br> > So can the admins tell how many people actually<br> > subscribe to FreeBSD-doc,<br> <br> The list has 496 subscribers right now. (speaking as one of postmaster@).<b= r> <br> > or is this just a place to report bugs and people<br> > should discuss FreeBSD doc-related issues elsewhere? Or is it that alm= ost<br> > nobody cares about the FreeBSD documentation?<br> <br> >From my observation, the last few month led to a huge pile of<br> workload on many folks that are involved with FreeBSD stuff, so<br> not many folks had time to reply/think things through/answer.<br> I had the same problem...<br> <br> I see doc-stuff happen mostly on <a href=3D"http://reviews.freebsd.org" rel= =3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">reviews.freebsd.org</a>. (spea= king<br> as one of phabric-admins). Pau Amma is the most active docs-person<br> as far as I can see. I have not calculated stats, just my gut feeling.<br> <br> -- <br> <a href=3D"mailto:pi@opsec.eu" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">pi@opse= c.eu</a>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 +49 171 3101372=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Now what ?<br> .</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></= div><div dir=3D"auto">Hi,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto= ">No, your patch is not pointless.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div di= r=3D"auto">I know that your patch was submitted one month ago, but we'r= e in the review of the complete handbook.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>= <div dir=3D"auto">I'll try to use your patch in some parts of the revie= w.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sorry if you think th= at your work is not take in consideration, this is not our idea.</div><div = dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">My public apologies, as I said, I&= #39;ll try to use your patch in some places. Of course I'll mention you= in the commit in these places.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir= =3D"auto">About huge patches, please, create minor patches and put me as a = reviewer.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">And again, tha= nks for your work.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><block= quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc= solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><block= quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1= px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> </blockquote></div></div> </blockquote></div></div></div> --000000000000982f4b05f381c284--
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