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Date:      Thu, 4 Apr 2013 09:56:44 +0100 (BST)
From:      Anton Shterenlikht <mexas@bris.ac.uk>
To:        emeric.maschino@gmail.com, freebsd-ia64@freebsd.org, mexas@bristol.ac.uk
Subject:   Re: HP rx8620 - ia64 packages.
Message-ID:  <201304040856.r348uicK044628@mech-cluster241.men.bris.ac.uk>
In-Reply-To: <CAA9xbM78OKEa1r1k4h_Fg=6LoiHjgePRondbXSKCdfjqJ%2BbypA@mail.gmail.com>

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	From emeric.maschino@gmail.com Wed Apr  3 22:25:52 2013

	>
	> What do you mean by "X isn't available"?
	>

	Well, [1] says: "Port the X server (ports/x11/XFree86-4-Server). Not really
	required for tier 1 status, but one cannot truly do without if one wants to
	use ia64 as a desktop machine."

ok, I never run X server on ia64,
only clients.


	> I run xdm on ia64, and all X clients too.
	> I run X server on sparc64 desktop.
	>
	> This is only because my ia64 boxes are large and noisy
	> and are best kept in the server room. I'm not aware
	> that X server does not run on ia64.
	>

	That's interesting. And what about the desktop environments like GNOME or
	KDE? Can you run them locally or only remote access?

no, don't use any of that.
Also, probably neither will build on ia64.
Even building kdelibs and kdebase segfaults
arbitrarily, and there's no help or interest
from devs:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=296433


	> If you are interested, I can provide detailed config.
	>

	Thanks. I've read that the FreeBSD graphics stack was undergoing major
	changes [2] (BTW, x86/x64 only?), but don't know the current status. What
	about KMS or Gallium3D for example? On the Linux side, 3D hardware
	acceleration is really unstable on my zx6000 without KMS and r300g. And
	even with that in, I'm still getting random X freezes.

	[1] http://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ia64/todo.html
	[2] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dnews_item&px=3DMTMwNzA

well, since I don't run X server on ia64,
I don't really need any of that.
I guess if you really want to run X server
on it, then you are on your own...

Anton



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