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Date:      Mon, 21 Jan 2019 00:12:00 -0800
From:      Patrick Mahan <plmahan@gmail.com>
To:        Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
Cc:        User Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Trying to understand some email issues
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Thanks, for the feedback.

I have been reading the postfix documentation, though I agree I don't have
a good hand on understand its logs.

I am fairly certain, no local users are sending to these accounts.  Which
is why I am confused about these emails from the yahoo mail server.

But thanks for the steer.

Patrick

On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 11:31 PM Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 09:35, Patrick Mahan <plmahan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> FreeBSD 11.2
>>
>> Running postfix 3.3.2_1,1
>>
>> I'm getting hammered with thousands of emails from yahoo.com -
>>
>> Here is an example -
>>
>> Jan 20 22:09:01 ns postfix/smtp[1308]: 2DA97A2E2EF: to=<pwascak@aol.com>,
>> relay=mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net[98.137.157.43]:25, delay=13730,
>> delays=13728/0.31/1.1/0.06, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (host
>> mx-aol.mail.gm0.yahoodns.net[98.137.157.43] said: 421 4.7.0 [TSS04]
>> Messages from 23.24.207.145 temporarily deferred due to user complaints -
>> 4.16.55.1; see https://help.yahoo.com/kb/postmaster/SLN3434.html (in
>> reply
>> to MAIL FROM command))
>>
>> I'm trying to determine if I am somehow relaying emails to yahoo.com, or
>> is
>> this someone attacking me.
>>
>
> Your server's public IP address is  23.24.207.145, right?
> Yahoo MX is "temporarily" (that is what SMTP Error Code 451 is. Code 550
> is "permanently")
> rejecting mail from your server.
> This is normal with Yahoo and you need to go to the given URL to
> understand why and possible
> ways of mitigating the issue.
> The thing is that ultimately, after some retries, Yahoo servers may accept
> the mail.
> You need to check your Postfix logs for this particular, or other such
> emails to see if they are
> originated by your legit users/IPs.
>
>
>
>> I am pretty sure I have postfix to avoid acting like a relay for
>> unauthenticated connections.  But this maybe something I have messed up.
>> This has been happening only since I upgraded to 11.2 (I was at 9.x).  I
>> also just recently switch from sendmail to postfix as well.
>>
>
> You just need to sit down and read Postfix documentation and understand
> it's internals,
> especially the logs. Without a clear understanding of the logs, you should
> be very worried
> as a Mail SysAdmin, very worried! :-)
> I am NOT a Postfix Admin, but I understand some stuff about it. I use Exim
> as my preferred MTA.
>
>
>> I can provide my postfix config on request if needed.
>>
>
> Not necessary for this case.
> However, I would advise you to sit easy if you followed a proper howto in
> setting up your MTA.
> Just take your time now to read about and understand the logging.
>
>
>>
>> Pointers to other mail-lists are welcomed.  I decided to start here before
>> jumping on the postfix mailing list.
>>
>> No problem.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
> Nairobi,KE
> +254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
> "Oh, the cruft.", grep ^[^#] :-)
>



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