Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:09:56 -0700 From: Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> To: Marcin Cieslak <saper@saper.info> Cc: David Naylor <naylor.b.david@gmail.com>, Geoffrey Huntley <ghuntley@ghuntley.com>, Freebsd-mono <freebsd-mono@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD Message-ID: <CABx9NuR59a_11QfpNRt1GkFKy-KFm1WmMi1a8Bqs1LygdP6Ypw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CABx9NuTpxj8g2s1OtNUrg_8g-c3CS9Lph2DcMJarmxi%2Bbzf51g@mail.gmail.com> References: <CABx9NuQVGCnn32pNz2Opbnua8wwuuYjTDJyq3qO0iF%2BkiGfVBg@mail.gmail.com> <nycvar.OFS.7.76.6.1709100805500.3008@z.fncre.vasb> <20170910155228.6545490.82502.31658@gmail.com> <CABx9NuTxcgDfe8oApu%2BsChN3wGfYHC_RNBeakxoh=7sK6_1O=g@mail.gmail.com> <CABx9NuTpxj8g2s1OtNUrg_8g-c3CS9Lph2DcMJarmxi%2Bbzf51g@mail.gmail.com>
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Does anyone here run Unity? Unity is a very popular gaming engine that is cross platform and provides a C# API. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_(game_engine) https://mellinoe.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/net-core-game-engine/ Kaboom! (Head exploded again. This is getting messy) Russ On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wrot= e: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 9:59 PM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wro= te: >> Hey Marcin, >> >> So I just read the Contribution License Agreement and I didn't see >> anything untoward. >> >> https://cla2.dotnetfoundation.org/cladoc/net-foundation-contribution-lic= ense-agreement.pdf >> >> Just remember all these projects are MIT, Apache 2 or CC license. I >> think bringing this code into FreeBSD is a bonkers good idea. (Kaboom! >> lolz). Especially if you think about how much proprietary code is out >> there on Windows that people will want to protect. A FreeNAS style >> management console would make FreeBSD a particularly attractive offer >> over GPL licensed OSes for companies to create appliance style systems >> (physical or virtual, a-la FreeNAS). Jails become yet another great >> way to distribute proprietary code. >> >> Sony PS 3&4, NetApp and now Nintendo Switch are all great examples of >> what you can do with FreeBSD in a proprietary system. >> >> Dot Net Core also opens up Arm based systems on FreeBSD in some ways >> because it's specifically designed do be modular. I don't think Mono >> has built on Arm for a long time and the performance of Mono has been >> a problem of note. >> >> Russ > > I'm trying to perform due diligence because I want to throw some time > into this. Avoiding GPL and other encumbering licenses is important to > me. I had to know myself so I made this list of licenses: > > https://github.com/dotnet/csharplang - Microsoft > https://github.com/dotnet/cli - > https://www.microsoft.com/net/dotnet_library_license.htm > > https://github.com/dotnet/source-build - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/core-setup - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/corefx - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet-docker - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/standard - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/sdk - MIT > https://github.com/dotnet/netcorecli-fsc - MIT > > https://github.com/nuget/home - A2 > https://github.com/aspnet/home - A2 > https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn - A2 > > https://github.com/aspnet/Docs - CC > https://github.com/dotnet/docs - CC > > Russ > >> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Russell Haley <russ.haley@gmail.com> wr= ote: >>> Sorry for the top post, >>> >>> Marcin, can you expand on your thoughts about the contributor license? = This has been one of the concerns of mine=E2=80=8E (part of the pedanticism= ). I didn't get a chance to read the doc itself yet. >>> >>> Russ >>> >>> Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Virgin Mobile network. >>> Original Message >>> From: Marcin Cieslak >>> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:13 AM >>> To: Russell Haley >>> Cc: David Naylor; Geoffrey Huntley; Freebsd-mono; freebsd-advocacy@free= bsd.org; freebsd-ports@freebsd.org >>> Subject: Re: DotNet Core on FreeBSD >>> >>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Russell Haley wrote: >>> >>>> Hey guys, >>>> >>>> I am talking to Karel and Tomas at Microsoft's DotNet Core Team about >>>> putting together a "proposal" for community involvement, which will be >>>> followed by more information on this list. Most of the talk has been >>>> me blowing air and being pedantic about nothing (I get excited and >>>> type alot). >>> >>> I was tinkering around FreeBSD support when dotnet core was first publi= shed. >>> Stack unwinding for exceptions was very hacky at the time, and there we= re >>> some unnecessary discussions about how to implement some FreeBSD sepeci= fic >>> sysctl's. I got a bit frustrated with that (a whole porting effort is a= bout >>> coercing Unix to offer part of Win32 APIs). >>> >>> It was somewhat running on FreeBSD natively back then, haven't checked >>> recently. >>> >>> I have also decided not to sign their bad contributor agreement >>> and some of the sysctl code I decided to put in mono instead :) >>> >>> Marcin >>> saper on github
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