Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2022 23:15:19 -0700 From: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> To: Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com> Cc: Joseph Mingrone <jrm@freebsd.org>, =?UTF-8?B?w5Z6a2FuIEtJUklL?= <ozkan.kirik@gmail.com>, Michael Schuster <michaelsprivate@gmail.com>, Kyle Evans <kevans@freebsd.org>, Karel Gardas <gardask@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Hackers <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <CANCZdfq7s2ODPbrZRztXQ7q1aMeDtK-bsoEoW%2BZKDkiyktKUSQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CACc-My26b1GZ7_s93Jx-DgeA=8%2BdS_2MYSoCv_D6uzRihyNHNQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <61100a28-40ae-4458-d7d5-3bc9b13ba219@gmail.com> <CADqw_gKkii%2BBHk7_jPE0DV5ZdF86ydEq956WDtZOP1N9GBjAPw@mail.gmail.com> <CACNAnaH4GH_n8GVYN44op-VO7VZ5_GLP8SBj0SfoC5KoBSFDQw@mail.gmail.com> <CADqw_gJuU6_Wt-GEJduz_Tm0oQg4dDv-5XDz1bsgWqtCmp1R2w@mail.gmail.com> <CAAcX-AHCom%2B5Zf2ENf%2BcFxPDrCWY=e_EaXfRamd%2BwnynBn1-VQ@mail.gmail.com> <864k6qj6x6.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <86zgoihs64.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <CACc-My26b1GZ7_s93Jx-DgeA=8%2BdS_2MYSoCv_D6uzRihyNHNQ@mail.gmail.com>
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--000000000000777c9d05d4bb903a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 11:03 PM Stefan Blachmann <sblachmann@gmail.com> wrote= : > Implementing S3 suspend/resume was a sponsored project itself. > However, it still does only work when at xorg graphics mode, which > already was topic in this thread. > When using it from console, no matter sc or vt, it still hangs with > dark screen and unresponsive keyboard. > Could finishing the suspend/resume work be sponsored, so that it also > works on console-only computers? > Not without loading the xorg graphics stuff... graphics chips from the last 15 or 20 years have lots of chip specific state that only the graphics stuff knows about... IIRC, it only knows about it because it put the graphics into a known state... it's the main reason laptops stopped suspending in the early 2000s... it looks to be a lot of work for a relatively rare use case... Warner > On 12/30/21, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@freebsd.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 2021-12-30 at 14:15, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@FreeBSD.org> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2021-12-30 at 08:05, =C3=96zkan KIRIK <ozkan.kirik@gmail.com> = wrote: > >>> I've ideas about enhancing the routing architecture. Is it possible t= o > >>> add to wiki? > > > >> Certainly. Please do. > > > > The link again is https://wiki.freebsd.org/2021FoundationCFI > > > > --000000000000777c9d05d4bb903a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto"><div><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" = class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 3, 2022, 11:03 PM Stefan Blachmann <<a = href=3D"mailto:sblachmann@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">s= blachmann@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot= e" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">= Implementing S3 suspend/resume was a sponsored project itself.<br> However, it still does only work when at xorg graphics mode, which<br> already was topic in this thread.<br> When using it from console, no matter sc or vt, it still hangs with<br> dark screen and unresponsive keyboard.<br> Could finishing the suspend/resume work be sponsored, so that it also<br> works on console-only computers?<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"au= to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Not without loading the xorg graphics stuff= ... graphics chips from the last 15 or 20 years have lots of chip specific = state that only the graphics stuff knows about... IIRC, it only knows about= it because it put the graphics into a known state... it's the main rea= son laptops stopped suspending in the early 2000s... it looks to be a lot o= f work for a relatively rare use case...</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><= div dir=3D"auto">Warner</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">= <div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi= n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br> On 12/30/21, Joseph Mingrone <<a href=3D"mailto:jrm@freebsd.org" rel=3D"= noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">jrm@freebsd.org</a>> wrote:<br> > On Thu, 2021-12-30 at 14:15, Joseph Mingrone <jrm@FreeBSD.org> w= rote:<br> ><br> >> On Thu, 2021-12-30 at 08:05, =C3=96zkan KIRIK <<a href=3D"mailt= o:ozkan.kirik@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">oz= kan.kirik@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> >>> I've ideas about enhancing the routing architecture. Is it= possible to<br> >>> add to wiki?<br> ><br> >> Certainly.=C2=A0 Please do.<br> ><br> > The link again is <a href=3D"https://wiki.freebsd.org/2021FoundationCF= I" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.= freebsd.org/2021FoundationCFI</a><br> ><br> <br> </blockquote></div></div></div> --000000000000777c9d05d4bb903a--
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