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Date:      Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:08:31 +0200
From:      Terje Elde <terje@elde.net>
To:        yudi v <yudi.tux@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Geli and ZFS
Message-ID:  <77878DF1-8266-406D-BD76-02295AE09CF0@elde.net>
In-Reply-To: <CACo--mtCxL1TPuACind8VsaFmA%2B7jB1Hxu0%2B5Pviauo=mV0vOA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Oct 9, 2013, at 6:43 AM, yudi v <yudi.tux@gmail.com> wrote:

> Generally, it's recommended to let ZFS manage the whole disk if possible,
> so I was wondering if the second option is better.
> I will be using couple of 3TB HDDs mirrored for data and want to encrypt
> them.

IIRC, there is/was a major performance-difference on Solaris between using ZFS on a partition, or a whole disk.  FreeBSD is happy with either.

The two alternatives you mentioned were:

ZFS over GELI over disk
and
ZFS over GELI over ZFS over disk

While ZFS wouldn't get the raw disk in setup #1, the left-most ZFS wouldn't get it in the second scenario either.

> I am hoping someone with an in-depth understanding of ZFS will be able to
> offer some insight.


What I usually do and recommend is using GPT with labels for the partitions you'll put GELI/ZFS on.

There's a couple of different reasons for this:

 * It'll let you create your zpool on /dev/gpt/label, which will make it easy to find even when the device moves (harddisk-renumbering, changes from internal ATA to USB enclosure… )

 * You don't run things through ZFS twice.

 * The disk is fully encrypted.

 * etc

Terje


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