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Date:      Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:48:32 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
To:        Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>
Cc:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@freebsd.org>, Andriy Gapon <avg@freebsd.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, Olivier Smedts <olivier@gid0.org>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, Oliver Pinter <oliver.pntr@gmail.com>
Subject:   Re: possible mountroot regression
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On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> wrot=
e:
>>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2011, Oliver Pinter wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 10/19/11, Olivier Smedts <olivier@gid0.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 2011/10/19 Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Andriy Gapon wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would you be able to commit a variant of this patch sans the 'x' pa=
rt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, soonish. If people like the 'x' change I can do that in a follo=
wup
>>>>>> commit as well. I just need to know if people like it or not...
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it's useful. But why not "q" for "quit" ? Just a bikeshed color
>>>>> idea...
>>>>>
>>>> eXit :)
>>>
>>> In some languages...
>>>
>>> More important to me is the "the Abort manual input" which tells what i=
t
>>> does but not why the user would want to do that.
>>>
>>> Abort manual input... and then what? =A0Hang? =A0Retry? =A0Panic? =A0Re=
boot? Resume
>>> attempting to mount the root device that was expected?
>>
> well, panic, there isn't much other thing to do. At the very least,
> letting the user input something is still better than what Linux do,
> which is to panic.
>
>> Or just go back to status quo for previous releases and we can worry
>> about usability later?
>>
> which status-quo ? the mountroot procedure of 7 is broken as well, as
> I found out yesterday. So what ? 6 ? 5 ? 4 ?

    The status quo that I was thinking of was press enter to get a
list of available devices instead of immediately panicking like the
new bootloader code currently does. As long as that status quo is
restored, I think a lot of existing users will be happy. Otherwise
this discussion could stall and turn into an unnecessary bikeshed.
Thanks,
-Garrett



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