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Date:      Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:22:04 -0700
From:      Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>
To:        Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com>
Cc:        =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Ladan?= <rene@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org>, Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
Subject:   Re: System headers with clang?
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Dimitry Andric <dim@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> On 2011-10-11 15:31, Larry Rosenman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011, Dimitry Andric wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>>>
>>>> I've attached a fix for the lsof port, which also makes it build on
>>>> 10.0-CURRENT (this was easy to fix here, as lsof uses its own
>>>> hand-rolled configuration script). =A0Let me know if it works for you.
>>>>
>>> Unless the headers are fixed, Vic Abell (lsof Author) will NOT support =
it.
>>>
>>> We need to get clang/system headers to allow warning free compilation
>>> just like GCC does.
>>
>> The system headers compile without warning, if you use them as intended
>> (e.g. from the kernel), which lsof obviously doesn't do. =A0There is no
>> easy workaround here, except by modifying lsof.
>>
>> For example, the warning about KASSERT is because lsof's headers don't
>> include the required headers for this macro. =A0And gcc is apparently no=
t
>> smart enough to generate warnings for this. :)
>>
> KASSERT() (from `sys/systm.h') is kernel only, any userland code
> seeing it is not using the header properly. I'd be a strong proponent
> of:
>
> #ifdef _KERNEL
> #error "You are NOT meant to define _KERNEL in userland application"
> #endif
>
> So this has nothing to do about smartness, but correctness.

net-snmp suffers from this as well because it pokes around some kernel
structures and data types to gather statistics related to IPv6,
routing, etc in order to fulfill MIB-II compliance. Part of the bits
are present, but not all of them, and I would really like for the need
to muck around in _KERNEL to go away...

Similarly, we have several utilities in base that muck around in
_KERNEL that really shouldn't IMHO.

Thanks,
-Garrett



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