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Date:      Wed, 24 Jul 2019 19:29:16 +0000
From:      "Wall, Stephen" <stephen.wall@redcom.com>
To:        "freebsd-security@freebsd.org" <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Old Stuff
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> From: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> security@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Aaron C. de Bruyn via freebsd-
> security
> Subject: Re: Old Stuff
>=20
>On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 9:58 AM Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
>> I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove =
all
>> of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and saf=
er.
>>
>> In this same vein, let's deprecate and remove things like telnet and ftp=
.
>
> Why remove telnet and FTP?

Why not?   It's not difficult to install ftp as needed from the ports tree =
- there are a number of clients and servers available there, including a ne=
wer version of tnftp, which is what appears in freebsd base.  I can't imagi=
ne it would be very difficult to migrate the base telnet to ports, either. =
 It'd be a bit less cruft in the base system that has to be maintained.  Th=
at applies to tftp as well.

Unless the base system is actually using any of them.  I don't know that.

> From: owner-freebsd-security@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> security@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Igor Mozolevsky
> Subject: Re: Old Stuff
>=20
> On Wednesday, 24 July 2019, Robert Simmons wrote:
> > I wonder if FreeBSD should drop support for 32bit? Clean out and remove=
 all
> > of it. It should make the code base easier to maintain, cleaner, and sa=
fer.
>=20
> Because nobody has a 32bit computer nowadays??? Similarly, you got any
> empirical evidence to back up the "... safer" part of your speculation?

I have to agree with Igor here - there are still 32-bit SOCs out there inte=
nded for embedded use. It's likely there are commercial users of FreeBSD de=
veloping for those platforms.

-spw



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