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Date:      Sat, 15 Jul 2023 20:13:00 -0500
From:      Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net>
To:        virtualization@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: BHYVE SNAPSHOT image format proposal
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On 7/15/23 12:31, Rob Wing wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, July 15, 2023, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms@shrew.net 
> <mailto:mgrooms@shrew.net>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     We'll overlook the fact that it does attempt to consolidate files (
>     2 vs 3 ) and that there's no feedback requesting further
>     consolidation after being open for two years, but noted.
> 
> You may as well abandon https://reviews.freebsd.org/D29262 
> <https://reviews.freebsd.org/D29262>, for these reasons alone:
> 

Thanks for the feedback. In the future, please feel free to add your 
concerns to the code review. It would be extremely helpful.

> - JSON doesn't support storing binary data

I don't know how to state it more clearly: Making binary copies of the 
data structures is the problem. Something tells me that you'll continue 
to ignore this, so I'll stop saying it.

> - a snapshot should be contained in a single file

Heard. A single file.

> 
>     The UPB patch addresses the above. Vitaliy's patch does nothing to
>     address any of it. If one is going to be proposed as an alternative
>     to the other, it better solve the same problems as then some.
> 
> The UBP patch is not an alternative - show me another hypervisor that 
> uses JSON as their snapshot format.
> 

Heard. JSON is bad.

>     The silence is real.
> 
> 
> No, it's not. I've given you feedback multiple times.

I'm very aware. The silence I was referring to wasn't yours. Feel free 
to re-read for context.

Rob, I'm not hear to argue with you. I've shared all the opinions I feel 
are relevant to the file format proposal and would prefer not to waste 
the list's time.

Thanks,

-Matthew



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