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Date:      Sun, 30 Jul 2023 10:42:14 +0300
From:      Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
To:        Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: sympa mailing list manager
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On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 8:13 PM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 08:32 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 2:26 PM Tom Browder <tom.browder@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 02:36 Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Mailman3 is a very good choice, if you ask me.
> >>>
> >>> Let me know if you need help with setup.
> ...
>
> > I found Sympa more complicated than Mailman3, but that's just me.
> > I considered using it when I had to move from Mailman2.x to Mailman3.x.
> During that time, Mailman3.x was quite a behemoth to setup, but not anymore.
> >
> > If you need peace of mind, go with Mailman3.
> > Mailman3 can be set up in a Python virtual environment so you do not
> need to bother with the FreeBSD ports.
>
> Which Mailman 3 setup are you using? On Debian I see several packages.
>
> If not a Debian package, can you give me links to the Python setup?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Tom
>

Hi Tom,

I am using the virtualenv method detailed here:
https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install
And I use that on ALL OSes - Debian, FreeBSD, etc. At one point I even did
it on OpenBSD running in a VM.
It's the most painless installation method you can ever have.
Using packages (Linux) or ports (FreeBSD) are painful and prone to breakage!


-- 
Best regards,
Odhiambo WASHINGTON,
Nairobi,KE
+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
"Oh, the cruft.", egrep -v '^$|^.*#' ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ :-)
[How to ask smart questions:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

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<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 8:13 PM Tom Browder &lt;<a href="mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com">tom.browder@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 08:32 Odhiambo Washington &lt;<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 2:26 PM Tom Browder &lt;<a href="mailto:tom.browder@gmail.com" target="_blank">tom.browder@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 02:36 Odhiambo Washington &lt;<a href="mailto:odhiambo@gmail.com" target="_blank">odhiambo@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Mailman3 is a very good choice, if you ask me.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Let me know if you need help with setup.<br>
...<br>
<br>
&gt; I found Sympa more complicated than Mailman3, but that&#39;s just me.<br>
&gt; I considered using it when I had to move from Mailman2.x to Mailman3.x. During that time, Mailman3.x was quite a behemoth to setup, but not anymore.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If you need peace of mind, go with Mailman3.<br>
&gt; Mailman3 can be set up in a Python virtual environment so you do not need to bother with the FreeBSD ports.<br>
<br>
Which Mailman 3 setup are you using? On Debian I see several packages.<br>
<br>
If not a Debian package, can you give me links to the Python setup?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
-Tom<br>
</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div>Hi Tom,</div><div><br></div><div>I am using the virtualenv method detailed here: <a href="https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install">https://docs.mailman3.org/en/latest/install/virtualenv.html#virtualenv-install</a></div><div>And I use that on ALL OSes - Debian, FreeBSD, etc. At one point I even did it on OpenBSD running in a VM.</div><div>It&#39;s the most painless installation method you can ever have.</div><div>Using packages (Linux) or ports (FreeBSD) are painful and prone to breakage!</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Best regards,<br>Odhiambo WASHINGTON,<br>Nairobi,KE<br>+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223<br>&quot;<span style="font-size:12.8px">Oh, the cruft.</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">&quot;, </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">egrep -v &#39;^$|^.*#&#39; </span><span style="background-color:rgb(34,34,34);color:rgb(238,238,238);font-family:&quot;Lucida Console&quot;,Consolas,&quot;Courier New&quot;,monospace;font-size:13.6px">¯\_(ツ)_/¯</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> :-)</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">[How to ask smart questions: </span><span style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html" target="_blank">http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html</a>]</span></div></div></div></div></div>;

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