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Date:      Tue, 28 Feb 2023 06:56:23 +0100
From:      Enrico Migliore <enrico.migliore@fatti.com>
To:        Tomek CEDRO <tomek@cedro.info>, grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-arm@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Arm64 Tier 1 FreeBSD 13 Phones
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Hi,

another way is compiling FreeBSD as a native App that runs on top iOS 
and Android.

Tech Giants will never open the source code of their drivers.

Enrico Migliore

On 28/02/2023 01:09, Tomek CEDRO wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 10:07 AM grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com> wrote:
>> FreeBSD Phones...
> Not really a "FreeBSD phones" just "phones" or "mobile multimedia
> capable embedded devices" as anything can run on them :-)
>
> For instance NuttX RTOS on PinePhone takes kilobytes in total:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGI_0yK1vws
>
> There will be many different operating systems soon available on this
> kind of inexpensive powerful multimedia embedded systems.
>
> The problem is standard and compatibility.
>
> Unless vendor does not provide complete set of open source drivers and
> firmwares there will be no move forward.
>
> Unless application written for one won't run on another there will be
> no move forward.
>
> Unless there is no overcomplicated SDK and toolchain with libraries
> that have lifespan shorter than a bread there will be no move forward.
>
> Because who needs bare OS/RTOS with no useful familiar applications.
>
> :-)
>

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