Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 18:03:16 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com> To: Craig Rodrigues <rodrigc@FreeBSD.org> Cc: Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: HOWTO articles for migrating from Linux to FreeBSD, especially for pkg? Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407251747331.14366@wonkity.com> In-Reply-To: <CAG=rPVdzHd0_DGrg1nEG5h0he%2BhVnr-vjsYZVmS9hNRBGCAL0Q@mail.gmail.com> References: <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407251459370.72188@wonkity.com> <CAG=rPVcyqq2072%2BgF_X91BocxykJB6%2BU0cMhaNexxfVFpVqUbA@mail.gmail.com> <CAG=rPVfBcci_fqAKW4j530QVY-OALu51ZjtVoM5n%2BmPg=LJLXQ@mail.gmail.com> <201407252126.s6PLQ5G2086889@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <CAG=rPVdzHd0_DGrg1nEG5h0he%2BhVnr-vjsYZVmS9hNRBGCAL0Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2014, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Garrett Wollman <wollman@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <alpine.BSF.2.11.1407251459370.72188@wonkity.com> you write: > > >Writing "an article" is hard. Writing a small section on how deleting > >packages is different between pkg and, say, apt, is much easier. The > >scope is known. > > Indeed, it's pretty trivial. > > I think the sort of article Craig was looking for was more on the > order of > > apt command pkg command > apt-get update pkg update (*1) > ... ... > > (*1) Explanation of differences between how apt behaves and how pkg > behaves. > > The set of common apt operations is pretty well-known, and most of > them have direct pkg(8) equivalents. > > > > Garrett is describing exactly what I am looking for. > > I'm not looking for a complicated article explaining the internal > differences between apt and pkg. Very few people have the > interest or patience to read that. > > Providing a simple table contrasting the basic apt/yum/rpm/pkg commands > for installing/upgrading/deleting packages is mostly what is needed. This gave me a flashback to the last time somebody said "Oh, I just want a simple little program." :) > We need to show people that installing packages on FreeBSD is > not like the "bad old pkg_add days" which people have bad memories of. We need to show that pkg is as good as what people are used to on modern Linux > distributions. The wiki should be ideal for this. Start a table, fill in what you can, and others can fill in the other parts. From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 26 02:46:43 2014 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 14CE5616; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 02:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-out-02.shaw.ca (smtp-out-02.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA50328C9; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 02:46:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=UbGOdjJMTOnDdlSKs4VLEv47Nwxh2hlhayjdFxkzNJk= c=1 sm=1 a=7V3fggXvsmQA:10 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=jn4Z1P99xdyqle8XhOAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=RgXXd5XzHKoA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by smtp-out-02.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 25 Jul 2014 20:46:34 -0600 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A52EBA56F; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s6Q2kXdV013283; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.9/8.14.8/Submit) with ESMTP id s6Q2kX7n013280; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201407260246.s6Q2kX7n013280@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.6 Reply-to: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> From: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com>, Glen Barber <gjb@FreeBSD.org>, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report - Second Quarter 2014 In-Reply-To: Message from Edward Tomasz =?utf-8?Q?Napiera=C5=82a?= <trasz@FreeBSD.org> of "Fri, 25 Jul 2014 23:12:49 +0200." <20140725211249.GA3933@brick.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 19:46:33 -0700 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current <freebsd-current.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-current>, <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-current@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current>, <mailto:freebsd-current-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 02:46:43 -0000 In message <20140725211249.GA3933@brick.home>, Edward Tomasz =?utf-8?Q?Napiera= C5=82a?= writes: > On 0725T1019, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <20140724183353.GL1065@hub.FreeBSD.org>, Glen Barber writes: > > > New Automounter > > > > > > Contact: Edward Tomasz Napieral/a <trasz@FreeBSD.org> > > > > > > Deficiencies in the current automounter, amd(8), are a recurring > > > problem reported by many FreeBSD users. A new automounter is being > > > developed to address these concerns. > > > > > > The automounter is a cleanroom implementation of functionality > > > available in most other Unix systems, using proper kernel support > > > implemented via an autofs filesystem. The automounter supports a > > > standard map format, and will integrate with the Lightweight Directory > > > Access Protocol (LDAP) service. > > > > Will it also integrate with NIS (as SunOS and Solaris do)? FreeBSD's amd > > currently integrates with NIS as well. > > It's just a matter of testing, apart from a trivial shell script. > Would you be able to help me with this? > Sure! Just point me in the direction of the patches. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@komquats.com> FreeBSD UNIX: <cy@FreeBSD.org> Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.
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