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Date:      Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:42:21 -0400
From:      Alexander Kabaev <kabaev@gmail.com>
To:        Tom Curry <thomasrcurry@gmail.com>
Cc:        Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org>, "freebsd-fs@freebsd.org" <freebsd-fs@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: TRIM support (same bug as linux?)
Message-ID:  <20150908214221.7a1702e0@kan>
In-Reply-To: <CAGtEZUBgbufc2W%2BiFg_7XVWyF4_mcfd8mj1=UMyTHM-RCWWR_g@mail.gmail.com>
References:  <CAD=tpedAx2XLtQe6Nn%2BHvXWZ0X=TekmkpTruxCndYqpBXPFaFA@mail.gmail.com> <55EF7265.2050309@multiplay.co.uk> <1BCC8B97-6C79-4864-8405-BA687577808A@longcount.org> <CAGtEZUBgbufc2W%2BiFg_7XVWyF4_mcfd8mj1=UMyTHM-RCWWR_g@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:28:01 -0400
Tom Curry <thomasrcurry@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm no expert but if memory serves the issue had to do with concurrent
> and/or queued trim which is not implemented in FreeBSD.
>=20
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 9:11 PM, Mark Saad <nonesuch@longcount.org>
> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >
> > > On Sep 8, 2015, at 7:42 PM, Steven Hartland
> > > <killing@multiplay.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Nope FreeBSD is not affected by this.
> > >
> > >> On 09/09/2015 00:15, FF wrote:
> > >> I'm asking a pretty vague question and I apologize in advance,
> > >> not
> > trying
> > >> to troll.
> > >>
> > >> The question has to do with whether FreeBSD is using TRIM the
> > >> same way
> > as
> > >> recent Linux kernels.
> > >>
> > >> https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-drives-are-not-that-solid/
> > seems
> > >> to imply that there are instabilities that can occur. Trying to
> > >> avoid duplicating effort if this has already been addressed or
> > >> if its a
> > complete
> > >> dead alley because there isn't a commonality.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance!
> > >
> >
> > It would be interesting if anyone could explain the reasons why
> > ufs/ffs and zfs  and FreeBSD are not effected by this issue .  My
> > rudimentary understanding of the issue was that it's wasn't just a
> > software glitch in the ext filesystem and bad firmware but a
> > combination of that and Linux poorly supporting a ata modes that
> > are not supported at all on FreeBSD . Is that correct ?
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Mark Saad | nonesuch@longcount.org

Wasn't the root cause the improper bio splitting code in md/raid0 code
and nothing special in firmware? FreeBSD shares no such code and as
such is not affected.

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Alexander Kabaev

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