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Date:      Wed, 24 Jan 2018 10:18:53 -0500
From:      Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
To:        Nimrod Levy <nimrodl@gmail.com>
Cc:        Mark Millard <marklmi26-fbsd@yahoo.com>, michaelp@bsquare.com, FreeBSD-STABLE Mailing List <freebsd-stable@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Ryzen issues on FreeBSD ? (summary of 4 issues)
Message-ID:  <5d13e877-88d9-30a3-3ec1-0824f48a9a64@sentex.net>
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On 1/24/2018 10:07 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote:
> I'm not sure this is characterized quite right.  I've been seeing c)
> where the system freezes completely and seems to be related to idle/ low
> load, but the workaround that seems to be working around the issue is
> part of a) where I lowered the memory speed.

It did seem to reduce the frequencies of the lockups, but I still had at
least one with the RAM speed reduced. I want to rule out b) from all
this with replacement CPUs so will revisit in a week.

	---Mike

> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 9:42 AM Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net
> <mailto:mike@sentex.net>> wrote:
> 
>     I think perhaps a good time to summarize as a few issues seem to be
>     going on
> 
>     a) fragile BIOS settings. There seems to be a number of issues around
>     RAM speeds and disabled C-STATES that impact stability.  Specifically,
>     lowering the default frequency from 2400 to 2133 seems to help some
>     users with crashes / lockups under heavy loads.
> 
>     b) CPUs manufactured prior to week 25 (some say week 33?) have a
>     hardware defect that manifests itself as segfaults in heavy compiles.  I
>     was able to confirm this on 1 of the CPUs I had using a Linux setup. It
>     seems to confirm this, you need to physically look at the CPU for the
>     manufacturing date :( Not sure how to trigger it on FreeBSD reliably,
>     but there is a github project I used to verify on Linux
>     (https://github.com/suaefar/ryzen-test)
> 
>     c) The idle lockup bug.  This *seems* to be confirmed on Linux as well
>     http://blog.programster.org/ubuntu-16-04-compile-custom-kernel-for-ryzen
>     and
>     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1690085
> 
>     d) Compile failures of some ports.  For myself and one other user,
>     compiling net/samba47 reliably hangs in roughly the same place.  Its not
>     clear if this is related to any of the above bugs or not.
> 
>     Right now I have RMA'd my 3 CPUs back to AMD. Hopefully, I will get
>     replacements in a week and can get back to testing c) and d).
> 
>             ---Mike
> 
> -- 
> 
> --
> Nimrod
> 


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