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Date:      Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:42:04 -0800 (PST)
From:      "Jeffrey Bouquet" <jbtakk@iherebuywisely.com>
To:        "rkoberman" <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: default pager (csh)
Message-ID:  <E1YOOYW-0000BF-6y@rmm6prod02.runbox.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1soawBofHR5D5Q51Roy_-%2B8Yp-Up0ZSW1g_k%2BEpcoKPXg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 23:45:27 -0800, Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com> wro=
te:

> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Franco Fichtner <franco@lastsummer.de>
> wrote:
>=20
> >
> > > On 19 Feb 2015, at 02:27, Davide Italiano <davide@freebsd.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Adam McDougall <mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu>
> > wrote:
> > >> The PAGER was less for about half a year and reverted.  Please see:
> > >>
> > >> https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=3Drevision&revision=3D242643
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > > OK, I think this ends the discussion =3D)
> >
> > Nope, not good enough.  The way I see it we achieved nothing
> > despite the fact that several bugs are on the table.
> >
> > Now that we all agree more(1) is the way to go, can we please fix
> > colouring and the pager quit issue for man pages using sensible
> > options in more(1)?
> >
> > Other's should speak up for their woes with the FreeBSD defaults
> > too.  The defaults are supposed to be the best we can do.  Right
> > now, we can actually do better.  :)
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Franco
> >
>=20
> I want my bikeshed to be purple with yellow stars.
>=20
> I want my PAGER to be Jim Davis's most(1). Does a LOT more than more or
> less. (Does have the annoying te/ti thing, though.) Displays binary.
> Auto-decompresses compressed files. Allows moving my line or percentage.
> Whole raft of neat stuff. Usually the second port (after portmaster) I
> install on a system since my finger type "most" even when I want them to
> type "more" because the system does not have most installed.
>=20
> I don't expect anyone else to agree and don't expect it to ever be in the
> base, let alone the default. Still, it's a much better pager then less,
> whether it's called more or not. Started using it at least 25 years ago on
> VMS.
> --
> Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
> E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com
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Here:  (.zshrc)...

PAGER=3D'cat'
alias man=3D'env PAGER=3Dlookat man $1'

That bottom one is so useful for the 's' search key... EXAMPLES for instanc=
e.=20=20
Same on all keyboards...
[ seems easier to read with default colors, also... ]
However in some instances (screen, dvtm, tmux... ) it may have onscreen art=
ifacts
one can simply then 'sh' (untested) first... for  usual 'man' instance of P=
AGER.
/usr/ports/sysutils/lookat...

[ Just re-noticed that 'cat' entry today.  No idea of the difference to a d=
efault... ]=



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