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Date:      Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:57:54 +0200
From:      Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
To:        Kevin Oberman <rkoberman@gmail.com>
Cc:        Mathieu Arnold <mat@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>, v@fatpipi.com, Adam Weinberger <adamw@adamw.org>
Subject:   Re: sysutils/tmux - strange behaviour with new version 2.4 / 2.5
Message-ID:  <595AAFD2.8090807@quip.cz>
In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1vyL8pw52%2B=SB8KcA-d1L_LWMY29HszyXxUO_Yh5p7Ldw@mail.gmail.com>
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Kevin Oberman wrote on 2017/07/03 21:26:
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:50 AM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote:

>>
>> I talked to tmux developer. He confirms the changes but stated:
>>
>> " You can't rely on the terminal scrollback to be complete when running in
>> full terminal applications like tmux. Use tmux copy mode instead."
>>
>> https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/984
>>
>> So I am stuck on versi 2.3 forever - I need "old" scrolling for my
>> workflow very often.
>>
>> Miroslav Lachman
>
>
> Damn! Looks like I'm heading back to screen(1). This strikes me as a simply
> awful "optimization" as it breaks a rather common use of the tool. And
> tmux(1) WAS far superior to screen(1), at least for my uses. Now to learn
> how to use "screen" again.

Exactly. Screen is broken in some ways, I cannot use it with JuiceSSH on 
Android platform so I switched to tmux few years ago... and now? Now the 
tmux is broken in a way that I cannot use it even from my PC-BSD desktop 
in Putty session. So I must stay on 2.3 or go back to screen. I am very sad.

Miroslav Lachman




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