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Date:      Tue, 14 Apr 2020 02:30:53 -0500
From:      Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org>
To:        imp@bsdimp.com
Cc:        freebsd-x11@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Upgrading 11.3 -> 12.1 [was Re: Radeon 5770, graphics/gpu-firmware-kmod, and graphics/drm-fbsd11.2-kmod]
Message-ID:  <202004140730.03E7UrX9004169@sdf.org>
In-Reply-To: <CANCZdfot69g4G4kNk7Ppodz-sv2m=RBY%2BBpBkBDyWSPcuSfq_Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 10:54 PM Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org> wrote:
>
> > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:36 PM Scott Bennett <bennett@sdf.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:05 AM Andrea Venturoli <ml@netfence.it>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2020-04-13 14:06, Scott Bennett wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I can ever get 12.1 to build on 11.3, I can upgrade.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is going out of the scope of the thread, but what is your
> > problem
> > > > > > exactly?
> > > > > > I was able to build 12.1 on 11.3 on different boxes.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > He doesn't have LLD or a newer binutils, so is hitting the test for
> > that
> > > > in
> > > > > libc. Or we've got some kind of false positive.
> > > > >
> > > >      How new does binutils have to be?  The last time a portmaster -a
> > run
> > > > updated it was on 25 February, though I have no idea when the time
> > before
> > > > that might have been.  I.e., I can't say which version was installed by
> > > > 26 Nov. 2019.
> > > >
> > > That should be new enough, but you may need to turn the cross build knobs
> > > to build with 'external toolchain items'. Are you doing that? If not,
> > then
> > > I'll look into which ones you need.
> > >
> >      Not that I know of.  That has not been the standard procedure for
> > source-
> > based upgrades across major release changes as long as I've been a FreeBSD
> > user.
> >      While you're looking into that, would you please find out if there is
> > anything special I will need to do about the boot loader phases in
> > upgrading?
> > Changes to the boot loaders caused me considerable grief a while back just
> > within 11-STABLE, and I'd like to be better prepared, rather than run into
> > similar problems again.
> >
>
> I'm trying to understand why this upgrade isn't working for you. It should
> be a no brainer easy thing based on what I know. The fact that it's not

     That was certainly what I had expected, and when it wasn't, I was quite
dismayed.

> means there is something i don't know that's standing in the way. I'd like
> to know what that is.

     Nice to have company. :-}
>
> I'd also like to understand the boot loader thing better too. I didn't
> think anything we'd merged was a huge hassle. Maybe the two are related.
> Maybe there is some left over config that caused both? Maybe it's two
> different things.
>
> In either even, I'd like to understand...
>
     In any case, the problems remain for Radeon HD 5770 on FreeBSD 11-STABLE.
Why is the GPU firmware hanging?  Why, when the GPU hangs, does the driver
crash the system instead of reinitializing the GPU?  I'm not sure I can even
file a PR using just lynx(1).

					Scott



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