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Date:      Wed, 18 Nov 2015 16:12:55 -0500
From:      Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>
To:        Marcelo Araujo <araujo@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-performance@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Measuring ZFS configuration differences
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> On Nov 17, 2015, at 9:31 PM, Marcelo Araujo <araujobsdport@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> 2015-11-18 10:23 GMT+08:00 Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>:
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>>=20
>>> On Nov 17, 2015, at 8:46 PM, Marcelo Araujo =
<araujobsdport@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> 2015-11-18 3:14 GMT+08:00 Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>:
>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Nov 12, 2015, at 1:30 AM, Marcelo Araujo =
<araujobsdport@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> 2015-11-12 6:34 GMT+08:00 Dan Langille <dan@langille.org>:
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Oct 12, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Dan Langille <dan@langille.org> =
wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Following up on the discussions during EuroBSDCon 2015 =
(Stockholm)
>>>>> during the FreeBSD Developer
>>>>>> Summit regarding various ZFS configuration settings, I write to =
start
>>>>> our implementation phase now that some
>>>>>> usual suspects have joined the list.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> re https://wiki.freebsd.org/201510DevSummit/Performance
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I think the first order of business is granting access rights to =
the
>>>>> server (varm) in question:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> http://dan.langille.org/2015/07/19/varm/
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> During the workshop, mention was made of serial access.  I can =
arrange
>>>>> that.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> The server has IPMI, however, my first thought:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> 1 - connect a USB-serial cable to varm & link that to another =
server
>> in
>>>>> my rack.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Marcelo: At EuroBSDCon, was it you who mentioned a particular
>>>>> configuration for the test machine which made
>>>>> it easy to configure and run tests?  Was it PXE booting or =
something?
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> 2 - create a jail in that server and give it access to that =
serial
>>>>> connection
>>>>>> 3 - redirect incoming port XYZ to that jail via a public-key-only =
ssh
>>>>> connection
>>>>>> 4 - give people access
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =E2=80=94
>>>>> Dan Langille
>>>>> http://langille.org/
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>> Hello Dan,
>>>>=20
>>>> Yes, was me :)
>>>>=20
>>>> I mention about zopkio test framework.
>>>> I gave a presentation last weekend at PyCon Hong Kong about it.
>>>>=20
>>>> Here is my slides:
>>>>=20
>> =
http://www.slideshare.net/araujobsd/functional-and-scale-performance-tests=
-using-zopkio
>>>>=20
>>>> The good of Zopkio is, we can write tests at once and run it as =
much as
>> we
>>>> want in different machines. Also Zopkio depends of Naarad, that can
>> parse a
>>>> CSV file and create metrics and SLA over those metrics, plot graphs =
and
>> so
>>>> on. Pretty nice tool!!!
>>>>=20
>>>> I'm wondering if we could start to test something and maybe show it =
at
>>>> AsiaBSDCon and BSDCon(Canada) next year? What do you think?
>>>> What I need right now would be a list of tests that we want to =
perform
>> as
>>>> well as what parameters we would like to take as metrics to =
compare.\
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> For tests, we can start with this list:
>>>> https://github.com/dlangille/zfs_benchmarks/issues
>>>>=20
>>>> We can start as soon as I figure out how to provide access to the
>>>> testers.  See above re serial connection.
>>>>=20
>>>> I want to provide access, but I want to keep access restricted to =
only
>>>> this box and not to the rest of my home LAN.  I plan to do this via =
a
>>>> VLAN.
>>>>=20
>>>> I could fire up a Rasperberry Pi and allow ssh into that.  Will =
that be
>>>> enough
>>>> power for what you need to do?
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>> First of all, thanks to share the tests cases.
>>>=20
>>> If I use zopkio, the best would be access SSH direct to the target
>> machine
>>> where I need to run the tests. For zopkio, I need to have my SSH KEY =
on
>> the
>>> target machine.
>>=20
>> I am OK with this.
>>=20
>>> As I don't know your network, maybe what you could do is: Via
>> RasperBerry,
>>> forward the SSH to the target machine, I will pass-through via your
>>> RasperBerry where you can control the access for the rest of your =
LAN.
>>>=20
>>> Another approach could be, two different subnets and a firewall. Or =
as
>> you
>>> said, VLANS.
>>=20
>> I will be doing VLANS, which have yet to be set up.
>>=20
>> The target system will have ZFS pools can be configured for different
>> tests (i.e. raidz2 vs raidz3).
>> This will involve gpart etc because the drives & pools will need to =
be
>> 'wiped' between different test
>> runs.
>>=20
>> I seem to recall someone suggesting PXE boot and configuring the =
system
>> remotely.  Does anyone
>> recall that?  That aspect of the discussion was not recorded:
>> https://wiki.freebsd.org/201510DevSummit/Performance
>>=20
>>=20
> Bapt@ mentioned that, this is the way how we are doing in another =
project.
> But in my point of view, it is not a must for our case!
>=20
> The PXE wold be good if we try to test different of OS flavors, or =
build
> different images.

OK.  The only thing holding us back is:

- adding the air filters to the case
- moving to the new switch with the new VLANs

It's now a matter of time.

=E2=80=94=20
Dan Langille
http://langille.org/








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