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Date:      Mon, 9 Oct 2023 16:44:09 +0100
From:      Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org>
To:        Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OCI image compatibility spec - FYI
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A while ago I drafted https://github.com/dfr/opencontainers-tob/tree/freebsd
but neither I nor Samuel Karp had enough time to take this forward. Since
then, we have resolved one of the trickier differences between the
podman/buildah port and containerd/nerdctl around network configuration and
I think this would be a good time to revive this proposal.

Doug.


On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 16:26, Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
wrote:

> Hi Doug,
>
> I have followed your work with great interest, though I have to admit
> that, because I am not a developer or DevOps practitioner, my understanding
> is incomplete.
>
> I am in 100% agreement with you that the PR I shared is less important
> than the runtime spec. I just wanted to bring it to the list's attention
> since the author has said he would welcome FreeBSD involvement and they
> plan a vote tomorrow.
>
> Several others, representing developers and end users, are also interested
> in helping with the runtime spec. I would love to connect them with you and
> see how we may be able to work together.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:19 AM Doug Rabson <dfr@rabson.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 13:51, Greg Wallace <greg@freebsdfoundation.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have been trying to stay tuned in to all the efforts to get a native
>>> OCI runtime on FreeBSD. There are a lot of people interested in this and
>>> several efforts underway.
>>>
>>> In the course of listening in on some of the OCI community developer
>>> calls, I learned about this effort to create image compatibility
>>> specification
>>>
>>> https://github.com/opencontainers/tob/pull/128
>>>
>>> I asked if they planned to include FreeBSD as a supported platform and
>>> they have been very open to the idea but they need FreeBSD developers to
>>> express interest and get involved.
>>>
>>> If this interests you, you can jump into the PR or ping me and I'd be
>>> happy to connect with the engineers heading this up.
>>>
>>
>> I am very interested in the area of adding FreeBSD extensions to the OCI
>> specification(s). Your PR covers the image spec - I actually think that it
>> might be better to start trying to define a FreeBSD extension for the
>> runtime spec.
>>
>> Doug.
>>
>>
>>>
>
> --
> Greg Wallace
> Director of Partnerships & Research
> M +1 919-247-3165
> Schedule a meeting <https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min>;
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<div dir="ltr">A while ago I drafted <a href="https://github.com/dfr/opencontainers-tob/tree/freebsd">https://github.com/dfr/opencontainers-tob/tree/freebsd</a>; but neither I nor Samuel Karp had enough time to take this forward. Since then, we have resolved one of the trickier differences between the podman/buildah port and containerd/nerdctl around network configuration and I think this would be a good time to revive this proposal.<div><br></div><div>Doug.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 16:26, Greg Wallace &lt;<a href="mailto:greg@freebsdfoundation.org">greg@freebsdfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Doug,<div><br></div><div>I have followed your work with great interest, though I have to admit that, because I am not a developer or DevOps practitioner, my understanding is incomplete.</div><div><br></div><div>I am in 100% agreement with you that the PR I shared is less important than the runtime spec. I just wanted to bring it to the list&#39;s attention since the author has said he would welcome FreeBSD involvement and they plan a vote tomorrow.</div><div><br></div><div>Several others, representing developers and end users, are also interested in helping with the runtime spec. I would love to connect them with you and see how we may be able to work together.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Greg</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 9, 2023 at 11:19 AM Doug Rabson &lt;<a href="mailto:dfr@rabson.org" target="_blank">dfr@rabson.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 9 Oct 2023 at 13:51, Greg Wallace &lt;<a href="mailto:greg@freebsdfoundation.org" target="_blank">greg@freebsdfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div><br></div><div>I have been trying to stay tuned in to all the efforts to get a native OCI runtime on FreeBSD. There are a lot of people interested in this and several efforts underway.</div><div><br></div><div>In the course of listening in on some of the OCI community developer calls, I learned about this effort to create image compatibility specification</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/opencontainers/tob/pull/128" target="_blank">https://github.com/opencontainers/tob/pull/128</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>I asked if they planned to include FreeBSD as a supported platform and they have been very open to the idea but they need FreeBSD developers to express interest and get involved.</div><div><br></div><div>If this interests you, you can jump into the PR or ping me and I&#39;d be happy to connect with the engineers heading this up.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am very interested in the area of adding FreeBSD extensions to the OCI specification(s). Your PR covers the image spec - I actually think that it might be better to start trying to define a FreeBSD extension for the runtime spec.<div><br></div><div>Doug.</div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div></div></div></div></div>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Greg Wallace</font><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Director of Partnerships &amp; Research</font></div><div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><img width="96" height="51" src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wjP1JywV51T1uncasRi5dh2tUFJeZix_vPxSVpOhkm2zu1JmXD4jfm2U5IKBxTuPyUCfKI10o"></font></div></div><div><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">M +1 919-247-3165<br></font></div><div><a href="https://calendly.com/greg-freebsdfound/30min" target="_blank"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">Schedule a meeting</font></a></div><div><a href="https://freebsd-foundation.myshopify.com/" target="_blank">Get your FreeBSD Gear</a></div></div></div>
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